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No!! It was a question, it must be your answer that upset you.

That was a question mate. You could have answered no. Instead you flew in with an insult. As Turkish says, I'm more tolerant than many, but if you insist in having a dig, you've gotta expect it back. If you can't take it, best keep quiet.

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Don't drag me into this nonsense mate...but, it was you who called me a bellend, and I replied by reminding you that you're a thick cunt. Not sure how the order of insults is hard to follow.

Just looked. Wish I hadn't. Poor fella had a haemorrhage. Appalling incident.

I'm tremendous thanks Whelk, thank you for asking. Anyways, there's a football discussion going on. Try posting on the subject. Go on, you can do it, just the once won't hurt you.

The PL does produce a standard of football better than the standard in this world cup. That's my opinion. One day maybe you'll express an opinion on an issue, not the poster. Give it a whirl.

Oh hello, that wasn't in the script. If it stays like this, and Spain beat Germany, it could get very interesting.

But what was in the parcel? Love honey? Shoes? I vote hoover bags...

The question was whether the football has been mostly crap. It has been. I'd say the average PL game has better football (forget pace) than the average game in this tournament to date.

No, it's been poor, but the PL has become so good, international football isn't a better standard anymore.

He was brilliant, but not quite in the league of Shilton for me. Flowers was similar standard too imo.

I'm not the one getting upset about the LGBTQ+ situation in Qatar petal, that's you. Most sensible people realise that other countries rules and laws are exactly they. It's idiots like you who get all upset about the Qatar situation, but take no issue with human rights in other countries, who sensible people shake their head at. Anyway, I'll end the discussion with you because you're clearly a thick cunt and there's a game on.

I'm highlighting the inconsistency of people. Poor gay people in Qatar, bit let's watch the tournament yeah. Bollox to the poor human rights in USA, Bangladesh, China, etc though. Hypocrites are irritating. You're a hypocrite.

He's playing as neither a 10 nor an 8, just kind of floating around as an old school inside left. He was decent first half against Iran I thought, but anonymous last night.

He'd be superb I reckon. The frustration is that we've got such a talented squad of players, and can all see the potential.

If they don't show their sexuality, how do people know what it is? Presumably though they went to Barbados knowing the laws, and probably wouldn't go to Qatar knowing the laws? From a tourist perspective, the choice is go or don't go, and if you don't like what a country has to offer, then go elsewhere.

Fair points. The weird thing was that we were conservative, but set up in a way that allowed us to be overrun in midfield. An extra man in there was needed, but wouldn't have meant that we needed to be more cautious in our approach. For me our issue was part tactical and part mentality.

Do you think we'd have done better last night by being less cautious?

Yep. Brazil aren't a better team of players than us imo. Fred offers less than Rice. Richarlison less than several of our forwards. They have a more positive mentality though, and I put that as the difference between us. Match the attitude, have the belief, play to our strengths, and we won't be drawing 0-0 with the likes of the USA. We should not have been going into the Wales game with any vague possibility of elimination, we should have had 2 wins and the chance to rotate.

We'll get picked off playing that way. The USA could have had a couple. France would have smashed us. The Iran game showed that we can attack and score, but Southgate has the mentality of preferring a 0-0 draw to a 3-2 win. I'm with Whitey, we need gamble a bit and take the leash off if we're to have a chance.