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I'm not sure how much was truly self inflicted, or at least, self inflicted by choice. The guy was plainly unwell for so long, carried baggage from his mates death in his arms, and was given a huge amount too soon but without the ability to cope. Before too long he became addicted to booze, and drank because of his addiction, thus not a free choice. What's inexcusable though is some of his behaviour towards Sheryl and others. What's especially sad is the part the press played. They helped destroy him by creating anxiety to add to the anxiety that he already had. The result has been catastrophic. It was a tough watch and I can only hope he reaches a point before its too late and gets the help he needs loads of ex players have done it. Look at people like Tony Adams and Paul Walsh, they've been down there and are now living good lives. Gazza could have the same.

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Yep, agree with that. It's not a game for that back 3. Needed a back 4 with an extra man in midfield for me. There's no press either, and there press is stifling us when we have a bit of possession.

I've just seen it again at full speed. Fair points lads, Forster couldn't do much about that.

Prowse was shite which didn't help. After the header, Forster pushed Cork away, got himself set, then stood there.

Indeed, each to own. He'd been brilliant, but for me, he could have done better there although fair to say the defence let him down, again.

Absolutely motionless. That could have been saved.

Yeah, but Forster wasn't impeded when the header was made. Forster was a statue. Goal his fault, but defending shocking.

Armstrong a bit ropy so far. Need him to pick up, and Broja to give the midfielders some movement.

Shit from Bednarek and Forster there.

That shot from Walker Peters cutting in on his left foot shows why he can be better on the left cutting in on his right. Good start though.

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He's definitely tailed off before Ramadam, but a club can't sign a practicing Muslim and refuse to accept that he must fast in Ramadam. Fans must accept it too.

https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/ Have a search in there, loads of examples. Ask someone with a properly aligned moral compass to help you though.

There was that lad who did the Nazi salute whilst circumventing the sanctions by pretending to be Italian if that counts.

We see it differently and I struggle to see how anyone can feel a grievance on behalf of a few tennis players when their government are smashing up another country, displacing millions, and its soldiers are behaving as they are. Even if you're right that the pressure will be minimal, why would you give a monkeys about the sports people in the circumstances? Seems the wrong place for sympathy for me.

Can't agree with you on this one Dman. Gotta respect the man's faith, and if it effects his performance significantly, then benching him is the right call.

A better version of my point 👍

I get the point Sue, but would those games attracted significantly bigger crowds at a bigger stadium? There's a lot to be said for the atmosphere of a packed full small stadium rather than a small crowd in a big stadium.

I'd rather not mate. Others have made the points and you're clueless on stuff like this so discussion is futile.

You're on full on "whoosh" mode mate. Others have spelt it out and I won't repeat it. I I'm genuinely unsure if you're just an idiot or deliberately contrary on important/sensitive stuff, but I ain't wasting my time debating with you.

That misses the point. If Russian people feel the pain, particularly profile people, that will lead to pressure on the Russian government. Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can advocate the need to be all sweet and kind to Russian sports people when their government are smashing the shit out of Ukraine and its people.

You've gone full on batshit recently Matthew. Perhaps have a think before you post some of the stuff that fills your head. Just a thought.

Yep, and do it across all sports with none of this competing under a neutral or different flag nonsense.

Absolutely no point mate. You'll babble on about stats and other shit, but refuse to acknowledge the obvious namely that Howe has done a superb job getting an average centre forward, average CB, our former reserve LB and a decent midfielder playing and winning. I'll forget the other full back as he's largely been injured. As has been said, money alone does not buy success and Everton have been highlighted as an example. I'll engage no more with you as I have better things to do. Enjoy the sunshine.