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Of course he hasn't. The official line is in the Telegraph, not from the manager.

I repeat: "I'm not getting back into another boring debate..." PM me if you really must mate, this is clogging up the thread. Bottom line though is that we have different opinion. I can live with that, give it a whirl.

Bless you Gordon. I've put forward 3 possible options as to why we're not signing full backs now. Ralph has explained via the Echo (you know, an actual comment, actually attributable to our actual manager) but you carry on with your theory that Ralph is happy to peddle lies to the fans to make the club look great, whilst a journalist in the Telegraph peddles more lies on behalf of the club. Get a grip pal. If you want to carry on the discussion, PM me, cos if I'm bored with it I can appreciate that other posters will be.

Is exhibit a of this evidence a Telegraph article from November 2019? Or 2017? Or Promes going elsewhere for loads of wages? Batman, what's your theory on why we're now not (seemingly) signing full backs this window?

Ok, I'll broaden the question. If you have the ability to answer questions rather than just being pompous, please explain the link between past transfer windows and us now not signing full backs this window?

Behave. So the link between not signing Promes and now not signing any full backs is what?

I think that means in the summer, not now. If it's now then that'd be crazy.

Del, you're better that and are one of the posters who understands the business. I'm not interested in previous windows and players that we didn't sign - there's a million reasons why players choose other clubs and the past is the past. The current current transfer window is all that is relevant at the minute so I'll focus on current transfer information definitely coming from the club, ie Ralph's recent comments re signing full backs and yesterdays clear change of position. His body language and tone of voice did not suggest that he was annoyed. We agree that he clearly said that he wanted and expected full backs. He's now changed his tune. Either financial support ain't there for that; or he's suddenly concluded that Vokins is good enough and Valery has made a miraculous recovery; or as sellers/players/agents are taking the p1ss so we're playing it cool/not playing ball. Which of those 3 is it? If not what is it? And to the likes of Itchen, this is a transfer WINDOW not RUMOURS thread so discussing what we're doing//not doing transfer wise and why during the transfer window is the topic. I agree though, that past windows are of no relevance to the here and now.

You don't think that what Ralph said yesterday about transfers is relevant in a transfer window thread?

You're tedious, other posters don't want another debate about newspaper articles and who's theory is correct. The most recent and indisputable as to origin transfer info comes from Ralph. I'm interested in that, not what the telegraph wrote 2 months ago.

I'm not getting back into another boring debate about whether everything about us in the telegraph comes from the club. Try to focus on what our manager has said, and then trying to apply some logic as to why he may be saying it.

That's the article. The relevant source, for me, is Ralph. He clearly said that he wanted and expected full backs. He's now changed his tune. Either financial support ain't there for that, he's suddenly concluded that Vokins is good enough and Valery has made a miraculous recovery, or as I've said above sellers/players/agents are taking the **** and we're playing it cool. Personally I think it's the last one - let's see where we are when the window shuts.

It may not be yours, but having read this forum for years, that's the way it comes across that many think. The point is that we may be in the market, and may have been quoted daft wages, fees etc so understandably have not pursued players, and will then seek to give the impression that we're OK with what we have. That's a media manipulation that I do buy into, and agree with.

Absolutely. There is a perception that because we don't sign a player that we fans have been let down/been lied to/the club is shifting position etc. Buying players ain't like buying a mop on amazon. It's highly possible that we've been unable to get deals over the line for whatever reasons and are stating publicly that we're happy with what we have...any other message makes us a hostage to fortune if we go into the market.

I think they'll struggle too. A bottom half finish is available at 4/1 which I think is a sound bet. I'll have a few quid on that. Bottom 6 is a bit unlikely though, but a small bet at 50's is tempting.

Shame you're being sarcastic, as that was almost sensible.

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That differs from info I received earlier in the week from a reliable and knowledgeable source. That said, moving him on would be nuts imo so I hope that you're information is correct.

You make a good point, but personally I'd love to say some of the traditional big clubs back in the top flight. They'll bring proper crowds, and give us brilliant away days. I'd take Leeds and West Brom over Bournemouth and Norwich all day long. Throw in a Sheffield Wednesday or Forest through the play offs in place of Watford or Burnley for good measure.

Impossible to answer really, but Matt in the modern era, super fit with proper nutrition, would have been an even better player I reckon. I never saw Ron Davies play so can't comment on him.

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The name wasn't known, just an arsenal player.

Of course not pal. Real people.

Seemingly there's something in this. Club want as much of their money back. Someone (no name given) from Arsenal to come in.