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We couldn't disagree more. Your interpretation of the post I was relying to is wrong. I correctly interpreted what is written, and you all but say the same thing. The fact that it's a rock star involved with a star struck child doesn't make it right. I find it staggering that anyone could try to justify a grown man having sex with a minor, regardless of the situation.

I think he needs a kick up the arse, but not dropping - yet. He gets pulled infield too often and if he's played wide left he needs to be more disciplined in his positioning. We cant play all season with a winger who exposes his full back. He also needs to release the quicker and stop faffing about with it.

As long as they're not throwing names around I don't see the harm in letting the people that should be worried feel worried.

Sounds like thin ice to me. If I read you correctly you're saying it's ok for a grown man to have sex with an under age girl, if she's a groupy.

No, it shows how wrong society was that this was once perceived by some as acceptable. I'm not sure it was ever the general attitude though.

A caution is accepted in lieu of conviction, ie to accept one is an acknowledgement of an offence. I've no idea what Townshend was supposed to have done though!

What? There will be no judicial process with saville - he's dead. Jones, leverson, hacking etc have nothing to do with revelations about Saville and potential revelations about others. In respect of the latter, proper investigation and judicial process should follow.

Influencing what Judges and for what reason? The police are accepting information about Saville but won't be investigating him as such, given thta he's dead. It seems clear that this kind of noncery was widespread back in the day (evidence=John Peel confession/marriage). There are people still living who deserve to be outed and dealt with in the boundaries of the law.

where did he play?

He can only shuffle the pack he's been given. I think it unlikely that another manager will get more out of the players that we have.

spot on.

Eh? I'm in the keep Nigel camp.

Forget telfer etc, the league has moved on and we have the players we have. Our defensive unit is the problem, not the manager. Out ot interest, who should have come on instead of jos?

How can any manager improve our defence? Individually they ain't good enough. Collectively they ignore the manager and drop deep. Any new manager has to work with these players.

That's a pretty **** argument for change.

So keep our "best players" on the park even if they ain't performing? Sounds great.

How will he help get better results from this squad?

Then you don't count bear boy. Name noted tho.

Can one of the idiots who have voted for change please name a replacement. Thanks.

This. B@stard

Who?

Er, we can't take loans.

So, who di you do you bring in? How does someone get better results with this squad?

No idea, but I'm doubtful that NA is to blame. Its very unlikely that he had the final say on any proposed deal, and had any input on the commercial aspect of any deal.

I can't believe there's a thread on this. Of course we don't sack him. Stability is what we need. We drew today. We lost our 2nd choice rb early in the game and had our star man out. The manager had a limited pack to shuffle and we didn't lose the game. For anyone voting yes, who could bring in? How would they do better with the squad we have? Madness.