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As things stand, how do you realistically see this ending if there's no deal? Assuming US support continues, Ukraine still won't win. If it doesn't, Ukraine are properly screwed. Like it or not, they've lost land that they can't regain, and will lose more the longer this goes on.

As much as that's the reality, the way this has been handled from the off by Trump is a disgrace. It was always going to end with a deal and land being ceded, but there's a way to do things and this is not the way.

Yep, and you'd hope so, but you never know in 2025.

That's a mixed bag. You miss the fact that Barnes got so much praise and adulation in an era when black people often didn't. Sure, there were neanderthals then, but that doesn't alter that he was incredibly popular, not least after that goal. I don't see you Beckham/Saka point. Both made mistakes and got grief. Yes, neanderthals came into the Saka grief, but fundamentally both got grief for similar reasons, not because of colour. Southgate and Pearce got slaughtered in their day, and they ain't black. Your last paragraph is just daft. The insinuation that Bazunu gets grief because of his colour is insulting and a very poor point.

John Barnes to an extent. Denise Lewis. Kelly Holmes. Successful black sports people that aren't as popular as they would like to be have personalities that can grate - ie Anthony Joshua, Lewis Hamilton, Bellingham. Colour isn't the problem, they are.

Yep. I've usually got a lot of time for Ian Wright, but there's nothing to suggest that Bellingham gets grief because he's black. He gets grief because he can come across as a bit of a billy big bollox.

Blimey, hadn't seen this. Very sad indeed. Amazingly talented, and so sad for the kids and all who loved him.

We don't know that. Sure, he's young, but he may have the necessary tools in his locker.

I'm not taking anything personally. I'm just stating that I thought your post utterly stupid. That's because it was. As was the follow up. I have no issue with you. I don't know you. I rarely take issue with you. Often the opposite. I play the post not the poster. Try it.

Yep. Hardly the high point of a dubious posting career.

The point is that your comment was crass and fucking stupid. This follow up from you is at least equally bad.

Odd post. Tice isn't Farage.

I don't particularly like a lot of the content on this thread, but I wouldn't label it homophobic. At the end of the day, it's a forum, and we all find some posts/ content/threads/posters/etc disagreeable, that's the nature of the beast. It's not difficult to avoid the thread if you want to.

Faulty (I know!)

Loved her "Farage can sod off" comment when asked how she thought he'd react.

Hardly a surprise from the bloke who suggested that Oakeshott banged Farage, and writes for the Guardian.

There's enough support amongst labour to this through, although I suspect the Tories will back it. The devil will be in the detail though re amendments to article 3 and 8, and the modern slavery act. They need to make the statute sufficiently tight to avoid too much judicial leeway - Judges only interpret that.

I'm guessing some sort of observation towards his pro license. He could do a lot worse than spending more time watching how De Zerbi works.

Correct. I though I'd made that clear. How I spend my time is a matter for me, and I choose not to waste my time addressing your non answers, or your questions.

None of that considers the legal fees. The BBC are looking at $10m + to defend a claim. Lose, they pay his fees, and any damages. They won't want the risk, and my guess is they'll look to settle at a level below their likely legal fees. Let's see if the BBC are "pussies".

Nuisance value is a term used in litigation to refer to the legal costs, time and aggravation of fighting a case. In addition to that, there's the litigation risk, ie the risk of losing, and what that looks like. If the BBC are looking at £10m in legal fees to defend a potential loser, that's part of the nuisance value. I'm with you completely on the spread of the article, and any reputational loss. Personally I think it'll settle, unless Starmer can have some sway. Let's see what happens - we can all speculate differently.

The short response is that I think malice is arguable. If not malicious, what was the intention of that piece of editing?

It'll be Florida, a red state. The BBC must consider the nuisance value. Christ not what to US lawyers for an unknown outcome. If they lose, it's the embarrassment, plus the damages, plus his legal fees. There's also the minor issue of our state broadcaster going toe to toe with the US president. Personally, I think a court in a red state will look at that and see malice. Let's face it, on any assessment, they didn't edit it like they did with good intentions, and they knew full well that they massively changed the context of hks words. It'll settle.

I'm not wasting my time evidencing how you've wasted my time.

I think you're looking for what you want to see. They can roll the dice and fight if they want, that's their call but they have a duty to the license payer and will need to do a proper risk analysis.