S-Clarke

We should be expecting and achieving so much more IMO. Our budget and players should not be competing with Carlisle, Tranmere, Exeter...that's not a big headed comment, but it would be a severe **** up of of all proportions if we did get relegated. We shouldn;t be anywhere near come the end...i still stand by that. but we need to start winning soon....as im getting very nervous.

He played it with the wrong players with no tactical discipline. we didn't have a natural right winger and we didn't have an out and out goal scorer. It was just a bunch of attacking minded players running around with no attacking discipline. - that was pretty much it.

It doesn't matter though,we need points in our situation, not plaudits or good performances. That's the truth. I love seeing us play well, but we need wins on the board now. Otherwise we're ****ed. I'm just worried that 1 or 2 of our players aren't cut out for this ''battle''.

No one is saying Pard's should be sakced - no one. I don't see where people are getting this from. I don't want him sacked...he needs time. but you cannot accuse people of worrying and expecting a little more....it's ambition, IMO - something alot of our fans lack.

There will come a time when the words ''a win will come - it's coming together - we're playing well, a win is not long away'' will become hollow and worthless, as we see our team slip 20 points from safety. Whatever anyone says, a double relegation would be unthinkable - how can the club recover quickly from that? We'd end up being gutted again next year. - that is what is staring in our face at the moment people, make no doubt about it. i didn't believe it would be, but the table is scary. I'm one of the positive outlook ones, i honestly believed we would get these -10 over quickly, but we haven't. FWIW i still believe we'll be ok in the end, but you cannot really accuse people of panicking in what is an intensively worrying situation.

How is he crap? How on earth can you say he can't pass? seriously? are you confusing him with Wotton or something? bizzare.

I think alot of it is down to the players nerves/pannicing - as they want a win, so just hoof it as quick as they can. As you saw, in games where we had no pressure on us (brum/n'hampton) we played it around well and didn't hoof it. It's a mental thing, which will only be overcome by winning a bloody league game...and i bet you our first win will be a very scrappy one.

Agree, it would only work if lallana was disciplined in that role. He 'shouldn't have to drop deep because Hammond and Morgan will cover that role. Probably didn't illustrate it well enough, but i did mean to show Mills and Papa pushed right right up I honestly think that's the way we should play at the moment. Adam does not work on the right or left - just unbalances the team.

I think we should cut our losses with Holmes...injured again apparently. Frustrating because we saw what he could offer us last season...well at the start of it anyway. Lambo dropped too deep because of the lack of any service, so he had to come and ge the ball so he could remember what it was! We need to learn how to use lambert, because we're not getting the best out of him at all.

We will get something there, simply because Charlton will leave space and let us play (Brentford had space through the middle yesterday and should have had at least 1 goal...) It's not going to be a ''hoof'' game - they're going to get it down and pass, so it should bring the best out in us (as long as we play the right players)

Personally, for the short time he played there, i liked the look of him playing off lambert. He's the sort of player who can pick up the lose balls around the defenders and with his fleet-footedness, he can create something from it. for me....(at home anyway).. Davis James - Trotman - Jaidi - Harding Hammond - Morgan Papa Mills Lallana Lambert

Jake's an odd one...he has the ability, but his issue is that he has no idea what to do with it. I saw a couple of times yesterday, he ran at a defender, beat him...great....but then the cross deflected off the first defender and went for a throw (i don't even think he got any height on it). Not good enough. for a RW one of his strongest attributes has to be crossing....if he works hard, goes out on loan for a season (which is desperately needs - not just 1 or 2 months away) then he'll come back stronger and hopefully with confidence after discovering an end product! i think it's too early to be writing off any of the young players tbh.

What a stupid post. He's a young lad learning his trade, but just isn't ready for first-team football just yet. He played well against Millwall IMO - so has shown he has something about him, but he can't do it week in - week out for us yet. I agree with the comments above, that he should be loaned out. He just had a woeful game yesterday, i admit that - but this thread is what you call OTT, to say the least.

I believe he should be given time (anyone talking of him being judged in the next 3-4 games is stupid IMO) But im not of the opinion that he should be kept on if we get relegated, IMO that will just be promoting failure. FWIW i don't believe we will get relegated and i hope to finish in mid-table so we can push next season. Pard's is a good manager....i've seen enough at west ham to convince me of that, we just need that flaming win under our belts!!

+1 i fully expect this. Charlton are on a high, could get 7 out of 7 - so will obviously be pushing and attacking...but in tern i expect them to leave space. If they do that...we could do very well, we've struggled this season against teams who stop us playing....i don't think charlton will.

I only have the fear that this complete unknown is being made into this ''season saving'' savior - the unveiling on the pitch was a bit OTT - not being negative, but i just think he should be blended into the team like the other new lads have. He could turn out to be excellent...but im not sure they should be building this unknown entity up this much. Let's wait and see!

He should play alongside Hammond - but only if we have proper width, otherwise he's pointless. - as we'll just hoof it up top and he'll be completely lost. If we play with Papa on the right and Mills on the left next weekend, he should start - his range of passing and switching of play will be crucial. I expect charlton, as they're full of confidence, to take the game to us - thus leaving space on the break. Could be the perfect game for him.

We didn't lose! i know it feels like that sometimes.....but we drew!! happy days!

Great assessment Um. The attack was abysmal today and probably led to the constant hoofing as there was no other option. There was no movement at all....

He's was ok today, nothing more. Col U. fans commented after the game that he doesn't look the same player he did for them. Today he just hoofed it too much IMO, although i guess in a way he was dictated to do that by having no one to pass to. He'll get better - once he gets to grips with our team (and we get width). I'd start him alongside morgan...and stick Lloydy back at RB.

He's got ability - but he's not the right player for us now, not quite ready IMO. Would do well for him to have a loan away at a Conf. side, just so he can get some professional goals under his belt.

Pards time at Charlton was completely different - he was pretty much strangled in what he could do, everyone was being ''laid'' off around him as they were cost cutting and his best players being sold (A. Reid). He's shown enough for me at West Ham to convince me he's good enough for us. It just isn't working at the moment though, but once we get a fully fit/available side out there it should... but we can't keep going through weeks just saying ''don't worry, we're close to a win'' though - before you know it, we could be 15/16 points adrift.

ok maybe i overdid it with ''class'' but i still think he's a very talented defensive player - hope we can keep him for the season.

Class player, wins everything and reads the game so well. Def. the high point for me today, alongside harding who i thought played well again! I think defensively today we were completely spot on - no issues there, it's just what happened further up the pitch...! i.e nothing. Jaidi and Trotman at the back should mean we don't concede too many goals. now we need to learn how to create chances for lambo...

i know what you're saying, but our league position is getting more and more frightening. 11 off - possibly even more next weekend if we don't win at Charlton. I honestly don't believe time is on our side...results need to start now otherwise we are in serious ****.