CB Saint

The issue at hand is not fraud in the welfare system but the money doled out legitimatly. Mick Philpotts didn't commit fraud to obtain benefits, he did however milk the system to an inch of its life. Unethical but legal - just like tax avoidance. Both need to be tackled with equal enthusiam - tax avoidance needs to be significantly reduced (we can start with the apples and googles of this world), but the benefits system does need to change so that it reverts to being a safetynet and not a lifestyle choice.

Not sure its coffee you've been taking

Champagne socialist

Devil inside

Disco inferno we didn't start the fire Fire - kasabian

I get that. I used to have a small office out in Oslo. All decisions were debated by everyone, and none were made unless there was a consensus. Used to dive me nuts, as a Brit.

Although sue whistle has seen better days

So, who out of these three regrets their picture the most. It has to be KRG

A familiar fella scores derby's first

Elite. "the working class can kiss my ass i've got the foremans job at last" "he's out of work and on the dole shove your red flag up your hole"

The infraction criteria is too easy - go to main board, find just mike, call him a c8nt, and sabotage the thread - job done

A couple of things I heard on 5live re this Mick bloke Apparently the locals raised thousands of pounds for the kids funerals, and he made a play to get the money signed over to himself personally. Secondly there was a shrine with cuddley toys etc, he wanted to auction the lot and trouser the proceeds

The only thing in McDonalds locker is the happy meal, oh and sausage and egg mcmuffins

are two lies like a double negative and therefore true?

This is what is currently irritating me. Yet another commentator spouting on about how wrong all the cuts, reforms etc are but no mention anywhere about how to resolve the problems that we face. Forget the refrain that we need to spend to get growth, no one knows if that will work, however everyone one knows that it will definitely lead to more debt By all means attack the tax avoiders, however £120bn? I am willing to bet everything I own, that if the correct measures were put into place to tackle tax avoidance, it would not yield up £120bn. You could tackle this in the form of one annual return. At the start of the year, everyone completes a form and gives it to their employers (benefit office if out of work) on it would declare kids, age ability etc. your allowances are the distributed through a tax code. You would get additional tax rebates monthly if your income was insufficient to attract tax. That way you would be able to nobble benefits for the high earners. On the subject of rich oldies getting freebies, surely if their income is in higher rate, they have to complete a tax return anyway. Claw back the benefits there. My parents haven't even been in the country long enough this year to need to use the winter fuel benefit, unless mum buying a new beach wardrobe counts.

Wishful thinking, you are not allowed to make clean graffiti in this country, let alone ship em out. We can't get rid of that murderous git qatada, FFs.

I am all for raising the minimum wage to a living wage, however someone needs to define what a living wage is. At the lower end, I am guessing that is a roof over your head, food on the table and clothes on your back.

Come on, dish it.

That was probably when adkins was insisting on selecting gazza over boruc. I'd bloody interfere too.

When deportation proceeding were started, I felt a surge of excitement at the nearness of Qatada's demise and yet disappointment that such a chance was missed. Why did the Human Rights law exist I asked myself. I wish the jordanians had got hold of him beforehand and claimed his life.

Just what we need - a load of of wisecracks to illuminate our lives. Shocking behaviour

The government should just get on and change the law and then deport his ass.

Never, apparently NC put the entire Liebherr estate funds in Cyprus.

I actually feell sorry for you lot - I am in the brackte you refer to. I am back to where I started five years ago. I have to say recession really suck and I will not be participating in the next one.

well apart from all that, what has boris ever done for us