Lord Duckhunter

It’s a mess. But it’s a mess of our making, not Middlesbrough, not their supporters, or their tame hacks & not the EFL. Sometimes there’s a ridiculous penalty awarded in the game, the phrase used is “he gave the referee a decision to make”, well we’ve given the authorities a decision to make, & rightly or wrongly, they could kick us out. Somebody at the club needs to pay for that with their job and I don’t mean the nipper with the iPhone. It’s a fucking shambles…. The general consensus on here is we’ll be ok, but I’m up and down. Sometimes I think it’ll be nothing, an hour later I’m thinking we’re fucked. The only thing I’m sure of, is the independent panel are independent. They’re also a body which relies on their integrity and reputation, they’re not going to be bothered about the logistics of playing the game without us, or Harry Styles gigging on the alternative date. Equally, they won’t want their decision being overturned by SR’s lawyers. The only consideration will be a verdict which is fair in most people’s eyes, proportionate and legally defendable. The truth is nobody really knows what they’ll be presented with or what our mitigation is. Trying to second guess why this has happened (tickets going on sale) or that happened, is pointless. It’s all up in the air and it wouldn’t be if we’d stuck to the rules…. Fucking shambles.

Daily mirror saying they’ll sit tomorrow

😂😂 Good job there weren’t any contentious offsides then…

What do you think it’s fucking based on. It’s based on the fact we broke the friggin rules. Fuck me… It’s his opinion based on that.

Why Wrexham? Unless they can prove we’ve been doing it during the main season, it’s got fuck all to do with them.

Not lasting 2 years with a fucking massive majority & the main opposition party still bumping along the bottom of the opinion polls, you have to be pretty fucking useless. By the time the Tories started tearing themselves apart, they’d been in office about 6 years and it was off the back of a very divisive referenda. To fuck up this badly & be so useless is actually a pretty remarkable achievement.

In a thread that contains more than its share of pony, you have managed to reach the peak of absolute bollocks. If that is the theory you’ve come up with after “thinking about it”, may I suggest thinking less maybe your best option going forward.

Maurice Glasman is one figure who could persuade me to vote labour. He’s about the only sensible voice I’m hearing lately and he says Mahmood the only person that can save Labour from the “nasty & insulting metropolitan graduate elite, who have abandoned the working classes” (his words, not mine). It’s about time labour had a female leader, but I doubt it will be her.

It’s not because of the way he talks or a newspaper agenda. It’s because he’s fucking useless and people can see he’s a steaming great hypocrite & a fraud. He was pious & all moralistic when in opposition, yet he’s exactly the same as all the others. When you set yourself up as a whiter than white “country before party” crusader who is going to clean up politics & bring order and stability after years of Tory cronyism & incompetence, you are going to get it with both barrels when within weeks your Government is a shit show, you and your ministers are grubbing around with freebies for yourself and families, and you’re appointing cronies to important positions. You can’t say you’ll take responsibility for stuff then chuck people under the bus & feign ignorance when the shite hits the fan. Labour MP’s are reporting he’s more toxic on the door steps than Corbyn ever was, and the “right wing media” haven’t given him half the stick Jezza got. He’s out of his depth, doesn’t understand the ordinary joe & is the perfect example of someone failing upwards. Like the Tories in ‘92 the worse thing that happened to the Labour Party was winning the election with this did in charge.

Do you actually believe this pony.

Yep, he cost them, not the VAR. Delayed it too long, I presume he thought the keeper would commit earlier. By the time he shot, the keeper was closer.

Of course it’s all a conspiracy 😂😂

😂😂 How anybody can think that wasn’t a foul…

Do you honestly believe this was the first time, dear god… Proving it, is going to be impossible, but why would a random bloke suddenly start spying on opponents, without knowledge of anyone at the club. From my experience whenever anyone’s caught doing anything wrong, it’s always the “first time”.

You know exactly what’s going to happen now. Celtic are going to beat Hearts last day to pip them to the title.

Just because they can’t prove it doesn’t absolve us of any blame, it just means we got away with it. In my opinion “working with the EFL” is going to mean coming up with some sort of punishment we can accept that doesn’t look too soft. The last thing the EFL want is lawyers all over this. The difficulty for them will be if Middlesbrough have a claim that our “cheating” made a material difference to the result. It’s hard to see a scenario where they can claim that , but you never know. If I was a betting man, I’d put money on large fine, and suspended points deduction.

There is a grey area in between. Proving it was authorised, is different to being authorised.

We won’t be “vindicated”. What’s so hard to understand. If there was nothing in it, the club would have issued a flat out denial and would have given our side of the story to friendly press or someone like Blackmore. They wouldn’t be “working with” the EFL, as there would be nothing to work with. Somebody with connections to SFC was up there spying on them, the only issues is how deep those connections were, was it authorised and how high up the food chain does it go. There’s absolutely zero chance an investigation will conclude that some random bloke with no connection to SFC did it off his own back, in his own time, and on his own wedge. At best we could be able to muddy the authorisation bit, and deliver them a patsy.

Do you really believe this pony. Nobody gives a shite, outside of Southampton or Middlesbrough. At least I hope not, I’m off to sexually harass a couple of nine pinters, safe in the knowledge nobody will notice as they’re too busy worry about Spy gate. Has The Donald commented on it yet, I hope it doesn’t make him take his eye off the Iran situation

You’re right they’re s good side. Tony Pulis has been saying all season they’re good enough to go up and Coventry aside, are the best side in the league. I know people will say, he’s a dinosaur etc, but he’s been around football a long time and his opinion is as valid as anyone’s. There’s no doubt in my mind that us and them are head and shoulders above the other 2, on our days. And that’s the point, the winner of this tie should go up, but if we don’t produce our best on Tuesday, it won’t be us.

That’s going to be some game tomorrow. Rangers have had a shite season but if they can beat Celtic tomorrow, Hearts can win the title by beating Falkirk at home next week. Next to winning the title, depriving Celtic of it is the next best thing.

That, and the fact that the club have basically admitted there’s something in it. Of you honestly believe the club would have issued the statement they did if there was absolutely nothing in it, you’re deluded….Its not some innocent bird watcher or dog walker randomly wandering around who has mistakenly be identified as a Southampton employee…

What a load of old pony. “First half went to plan” 😂. If that’s the case it was a fucking stupid plan. “ Let’s keep giving the ball away, allowing crosses, let our centre forward be beaten in every physical battle and rely on their poor finishing to go in 0-0”. We got away with one there, and despite have 2 excellent efforts, could well have gone in 2 or 3 down. Completely different game then, and they’d have sat in and made it very very difficult. Probably edged the second half, but god the first half we were lucky they couldn’t finish. Larin was appalling, as was Fellows. Azaz anonymous up there again, and Leo was a long way from his best. Keeper did well again as did THB. Completely different game Tuesday and we must be slight favourites. However, if we play like we did first half, I don’t think we’ll get away with it again.

The whole thing is pathetic, from their fans reactions to our fans trying to claim they wouldn’t be bothered if the boot was on the other foot. Dear god, there’s not a match thread without demands for a red card or the ref has an agenda against us. Our nods would have reacted in exactly the same way there’s have. It’s also pathetic from the club and/or the individual. If he acted alone, he needs to get a life & if the club instructed him, that’s pretty fucking pathetic really. IMO, it’s probably a mixture of both and a bit of a grey area. I can’t believe nobody at the club knew, but equally, I’m pretty sure senior staff wouldn’t have signed off on this. I guess the case boils down to plausible deniability, and I smell a compromise coming up. Let’s not forget the bloke got caught 2 days ago, so Boro have 2 days to change tactical stuff, and he legitimately could have watched preparation for Tuesdays game. It’s not as if this has come out after the game, they were fully aware and could react to it. IF the result of both legs is close, with us going up on penalties, after extra time or by one goal, then perhaps it’ll run a bit longer. If we batter them, it’ll become a non story and we’ll get a slap on the wrist type fine. It’s hard to see Gibson arguing it made a difference, if we’ve dicked them 5-1 on aggregate. He’ll make himself look a right chump. The only way we’ll face a major issue is if other sides come forward with some evidence we’ve done it before, which begs the question, why didn’t they report it at the time. my gut feeling is Saints admitting a slight technical breach of the rules in return for a fine and maybe suspended points deduction. The technical breach being an employee/free lance bod acted without the knowledge of any senior management

Lowe isn’t in Reform, for a bloke criticising people “don’t understand” you’re pretty dopey yourself. From Reforms last election campaign. “Reform UK officially states they will keep the NHS "free at the point of delivery.” The UK isn’t particularly free at the point of delivery anymore than the French is, what are prescription charges? You have to pay before you receive treatment. Yet you’re critical of the French health service , which is far better than ours, based solely on the fact Nige is a supporter of it. Ridiculous position to be in, all that matters is our health care is improved. There’s a reason no other country copies ours. This is the problem, trying to debate our horrendous health service, dinosaurs like you are stuck in the 1940’s and won’t consider any other system. Though at the end of the day, if the people vote for it, that’s what they’ll get.