Lord Duckhunter

I’ve not seen anyone advocating letting it run wild, only lockdown enthusiasts claiming it’s what other people want. It’s not just lockdown or nothing, there’s lots of measures in between.

And Alan Shearer wouldn’t have said it wasn’t on MoTD.

The NHS isn’t able to do its job BECAUSE of the lockdown. You can’t get a Doctors appointment for love or money, a guy who works for me has had 2 operations cancelled as a direct result of lockdown, and I’m sure there’s countless others in the same boat. Harsh as it sounds there are 2 sides to the ledger. One side contains the people saved (mainly older folk) from lockdown & the other side contains people who die as a result of lockdown. People with mental health issues as a result of losing their job, or poverty. People whose cancer was diagnosed later than it normally would be, people who are scared to visit A&E and as a result die of heart attack or stroke. A midwife told me that women turning up for scans worried the baby has stopped moving is down 90% since lockdown, as they’re too scared of visiting hospital and catching Covid. Most are fine, but some saved their unborn babies life by acting quickly. Therefore it stands to reason that fear of checking out your baby will cause some deaths. This is horrible stuff, but stuff used to make health decisions year in year out. Lockdown may save people from dying of Covid, but it will cause preventable deaths elsewhere.

Thought I’d watch match of the day this morning as you sometimes get a different perspective watching twice. However, it was unwatchable and I had to mute it after a couple of minutes. Anyone who thinks that bird is a competent commentator is plain wrong. Horrendous.

You really think they’d give us more favourable terms than countries that haven’t left. A rules based organisation, would bend their rules for a country that had left it once before. You’re deluded.

If you think the British public will want the following, you’re more out of touch than even I thought you were. To rejoin we’ll have to; Accept the euro Be part of Schegen Pay in without our previous rebate. That’s before the discussion of sovereignty, ever closer Union, CFP & CAP has even started. We’ll also be years of integration further down the line, more federal, more of what the brits don’t want. Then there’s the new members in those years, good luck selling FoM from Albania or Serbia. The British people voted out despite our special arms length relationship, they’re not going to vote to rejoin as fully fledged members with all its bells and whistles . People like Grievance, Soubry & Bercow understood this, even if you don’t. That’s why they fought so hard to overturn the vote.

Pony. It won’t make a blind bit of difference to “ease of travel”.

Pony. What happened was people moaned about handballs being given as penalties, so they’ve now changed the definition. Surprise surprise, people are moaning about them not being given. I absolutely guarantee had that been given against us the majority of posters on here would be moaning.

Got to love the way Remoaners “hard Brexit” keeps changing . Once it meant leaving the SM & CU, now it means WTO. There never was hard or soft Brexit, there was just Brexit & a future relationship negotiated by the PM and then voted through by Parliament. I’d imagine this future relationship pleases most leave voters, but if not, we’ll punish Boris at the polls, and there’s only one direction any change to the relationship is heading. If you think the British people will vote to rejoin you’re deluded. Rejoining means accepting the Euro, becoming part of Schegen and paying in without the great lady’s rebate. It’s not going to happen. It’s over, but I do understand you and others desire to somehow paint this as a betrayal that leavers don’t understand. It can’t be easy to come to terms with being so comprehensively out of touch with the great unwashed and as you’ve spent 4 years calling them thick , racists and generally being condescending, there’s really no reason to stop now.

But they’re not servicing the rest of the NHS.

Fucking whinging again, what’s the matter with people? If he’d had Redmond or Ings on the bench, he’d have brought them on sooner, but the quality ain’t there. We have a decent starting 11 but, a pretty average squad. The manager is producing a bloody miracle with that bunch, yet people are still criticising him. FFS, any point away from home is ok in this league and if Fulham are as shiete as some make out, how did the manage a draw with Liverpool the other day.

Lol. More clutching at straws.

You’re right. This will be their next whinge, despite the fact there’s never been a fully formed single market in services. Clutching at straws. They’re so desperate for something to go wrong, but the reality is that the vast vast majority of the country will be happy with the outcome.

Tariffs are a tax on consumers, as goods will cost consumers more. Is it not a good thing that Audis, BMW’s & Volkswagen’s will remain tariff free for British consumers?

Firstly, there’s not really a single market in services, there’s still barriers to trade. Even the Irish are pushing for these to be broken down and the great lady thought this the area her Single market failed to cover. But secondly, both sides have agreed to continue to negotiate in this area, with the EU granting temporary equivalence rights until it’s sorted. Not that anything will stop your sniping and moaning. Most remainers will be grateful a deals been done, and those that aren’t can campaign to rejoin. Good luck with that, but first you’ll need to find your Nigel.

The Editor of Bild, Europe’s largest selling newspaper confirms what Brexiters claimed all along, that German economic interests would ensure a deal. He claims Barnier was trying to goad us Brits to walk away, believing we’d come back in 6 moths tail between our legs. That he was sidelined because Berlin believed this would cause an economic disaster in The EU, specifically mentioning German car makers. He claims that Merkel worked behind the scenes with Frau von der Leyen, before finally praising the deal thus; “Your Prime Minister has achieved a deal which is nothing short of sensational: What Mr Johnson has achieved is a tailor-made agreement that allows full access to your most important market while being able to write your own laws and standards – as long as you play fair, which is something British traders have been renowned for doing for centuries.” All negotiated in 12 months. Looks like it was a pretty easy deal to get done after all. And Boris does get to have his cake & eat it.

Brilliant, so it’s been delivered then. Perhaps had we left earlier, we’d have got the money earlier. But never mind, as you say, the NHS will be getting that amount. The message on the bus didn’t mention timescales. But fair play to you, unlike other remainers you’ve accepted it’s going to be delivered.

This is NY Times. Both sides had agreed during the negotiations to discuss financial services separately. The U.K. government said in a document published Thursday that the agreement includes provisions to support trade in services, including financial services and legal services. “This will provide many U.K. service suppliers with legal guarantees that they will not face barriers to trade when selling into the EU and will support the mobility of U.K. professionals who will continue to do business across the EU,” according to the document. The agreement includes what the U.K. government described as “groundbreaking provisions” on legal services which allow U.K. lawyers to advise clients across the EU on U.K. and public international law, except where EU members place specific limits on this. From Jan. 1, U.K.-based financial institutions lose automatic access to the EU’s single market. To serve customers in the EU next year, U.K.-based institutions will have to be granted equivalence rights, under which the EU allows them to conduct certain financial activities. Equivalence rights can be withdrawn at short notice. So far the EU has granted temporary equivalence rights to British clearinghouses, which operate between buyers and sellers in trades and pledge to complete the deal even if one side reneges. London has much of this financial plumbing, which manages trillions of dollars of derivatives contracts every day. The sides will continue discussing how to move forward on granting equivalence and pledged to codify a framework for regulatory cooperation.

Done “The NHS is to get an extra £384 million a week after Brexit, Prime Minister Theresa May has said. In a major announcement to mark the 70th anniversary of the health service, the PM has said it will receive an additional £20 billion a year in real terms funding by 2024. It is expected that taxes and borrowing will rise to pay for the increase in funding, and resources will be redirected from the more than £9 billion a year the UK currently pays into the EU. Writing in the Mail on Sunday, Mrs May said: “Now, as we leave the European Union and stop paying significant annual subscriptions to Brussels, we will have more money to spend on priorities such as the NHS. “But to give the NHS the funding it needs for the future, this Brexit dividend will not be enough.” Ahead of a major speech on the issue on Monday, Mrs May added: “As a country, we need to contribute a bit more in a fair and balanced way. We will listen to views about how we do this and the Chancellor will set out the detail in due course. To deliver, this plan must be about more than money. ” The figure tops the controversial £350 million a week increase promised by the Leave campaign during the referendum.”

“The deal is not perfect but it is a big moment. This victory is a tribute to the ordinary men and women who stood up against the Westminster establishment — and won. There is no going back.”

I think both remainers & leavers can come together & agree Peston is an arse. FFS get to the question man.

That’s exactly what happens. When it happens in this area they vaccinate NHS staff on duty with it. Still, gives people a chance to moan about the government again.

Well that was what Stuart Rose, the chair of the remain campaign, claimed. There’s a balancing act of sovereignty as opposed to economics and most leave voters felt it had gone too far. But you know who really was to blame for your loss, people like Major, Cameron, Brown, etc who played up euro scepticism to win votes. They blamed EU and said it needed reform, when they couldn’t reform it, the logical conclusion was to leave. Nigels position was coherent & consistent, theirs wasn’t. They never defended the principle of ever closer union, never defended FoM and never ever tried to change our minds. I mentioned earlier a German I met in a Portuguese bar. He gave a coherent argument for The EU, compared it to The UK, in his eyes a Pole in Germany was the equivalent of a sweaty in London. He gave a passionate defence of the EU the like of which British politicians hid from. That’s why we’re here, your side spent 40 years trying to pretend the EU was something it wasn’t, instead of trying to sell what it was to us.

That’s why you don’t get it, and exactly why your side lost.

The shop is woeful. I ordered 2 kits for nephews of mine, one Boscombe & one saints. Boscombe was no trouble, arrived in a few days, tracked and they kept me informed the whole way. Saints was completely different, received a confusing email stating it was on its way, but same email said “replica kits would be sent out later”. Tried to find out if it was coming, tracking order number didn’t work, as you say nobody answered phone, sent 2 emails and contact us form neither of which were replied to. It did actually turn up yesterday, but was a shambles from the start. Clearly we are busier than their shop, but there’s really no excuse for the appalling service.