Dark Munster

I think that's very possible. As an example, City surely would've fielded a much stronger team against us if they didn't have the second leg against Real Madrid a few days later. So I am hoping they scrape through (after a tiring 30 minutes of extra time). Besides, Lovren aside, I don't have much against them (now that Brenda's gone). Unlike those north London yobbos.

They are (like many) wrong about that. 8th could never have qualified for Europe (except if it's Liverpool finishing 8th and winning the EL).

If we finish 7th we only need Utd to win the cup (assuming they finish above us) to get into EL. If Liverpool win EL and finish 8th then PL gets 5 Cl + 3 EL. Full details at http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?56310-Europa-League-qualification

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?56310-Europa-League-qualification

Bump.

Good news for Hants this year. Maybe we can draw our way to safety!

No thanks. Over the hill.

That would've been brilliant, but us losing and them then going on to pip Leicester would've been too unpleasant to bear. So I'll take yesterday's result: better safe than sorry. If we win at WHL I'm sure you're still going to enjoy it!

Barring a major collapse it's heading for a draw. Edwards out for the season. Major blow.

That part's true, but it's an opinion, not a fact. (Your last sentence is just your opinion). And most people use it if the odds against are astronomical, but not 200/1. In August Leicester winning the league at 5000/1 was "never going to happen" for many people. When we beat Plymouth in L1 in the second to last match, we all celebrated going up, even though Huddersfield were only 3 points behind with one match left. That's because they needed to overcome something like a 19 goal difference: it was never going to happen. I never buy lottery tickets, because although I could theoretically win, as far as I'm concerned it would never happen. But I don't tell those that do buy them that they're wrong. Anyway, enough of this tedium. I'm at stage 6 now, goodnight: Munster vs. Fry.

Dodgy indeed! Sigh. Mr. Fry isn't going to admit being wrong is he? Ok, I'm a mathematician, so I'll try to give some rough odds (bearing in mind this isn't an exact science since we can't give exact odds on any match). Let's say the Skates have 50% chance of winning each match (not unreasonable since they are a stronger team than most of the other crap in the division, and had everything to play for). So that is a (1/2)*(1/2) =1/4 probability of winning both matches. Plymouth had to not win both matches. If we assume that they had a 50% chance of winning each match it was again 1/4 of them winning both, so 1-(1/4) = 3/4 that they would fail in winning both (good enough for the skates). Bristol Rovers had to not win either of their last two matches. If we assume 50% they would draw or lose a match, that's (1/2)*(1/2) = 1/4 probability to fail to win either. Finally Oxford to lose one and at best draw their other match: so LL, LD or DL would suffice. Assuming 1/4 chance of L and 1/4 chance of D, that gives 3*(1/4)*(1/4) = 3/16. So for all of these to occur we have (1/4)*(3/4)*(1/4)*(3/16) = 9/1024 probability, i.e. odds of about 114/1. Now you could argue that the above estimates are too generous for the skates, but at worst maybe 200/1. Also note I have for simplicity ignored the possibility of Accrington losing both matches, which would improve the odds a bit. So for Mr. Fry odds of a couple of hundred to one are equivalent to "never going to happen." And since it didn't actually happen that's "proof". But, for those of us in the real world, we knew the skates had an outside chance before Saturday's matches. It reminds me of a conference I once went to. A physicist gave a talk (on mathematics) which was based on an incorrect assumption. I politely tried to explain that to him during question time, but he belligerently asserted it was true (without any proof). Afterwards one of my colleagues called his a "proof by aggression".

Here's another who get a retroactive ban.

Most of the team had to be taken off to avoid a second yellow!

9 yellows. Should have been at least 2 reds on top of that. Brawls during and after the match. Filthy bastards. I hope they get a bunch of post-match bans, maybe even points deduction. Well done Leicester.

Deliberate stamp on Fabregas's hand.

Filthy, filthy team. I hope they get a bunch of bans after this. Should get a 10 point deduction too.

Loved seeing MP's head in his hands as that goal went in.

As mentioned earlier, it doesn't really matter. If they catch us or overtake us it means we probably wouldn't have had enough points anyway to finish 7th or higher.

Silver lining, if the north London yobos win tonight, and Leicester fail to beat Everton, it'll be in our hands to ruin the bastards dreams at WHL. What could be sweeter?

Or maybe he said to Davies "Make it a good one please. The gaffer told me I won't have to play if we're 2 or more goals down, so if you score now I can go back to the bench and have a nice rest before Wednesday."

If Utd win the FA cup we could get this final table and qualifications: Leicester - CL Spurs - CL Arsenal - CL Man Utd - CL Man City - EL West Ham - EL Saints - EL Liverpool - Nothing If Liverpool win EL then this changes to: Leicester - CL Spurs - CL Arsenal - CL Man Utd - CL Man City - EL West Ham - EL Saints - EL Liverpool - CL If City win CL then it changes to: Leicester - CL Spurs - CL Arsenal - CL Man Utd - CL Man City - CL West Ham - EL Saints - EL Liverpool - Nothing But if Liverpool win EL and City win CL then I think it changes to (hope I'm wrong): Leicester - CL Spurs - CL Arsenal - CL Man Utd - EL Man City - CL West Ham - EL Saints - Nothing Liverpool - CL

If City win CL and finish 5th then indeed there would be 5 CL entrants, but only 2 EL (City's EL gets converted to CL). Similarly if Liverpool win EL and finish in an EL spot.

He's only right if Liverpool finish 8th and win the EL.

Odds improved greatly today. Liverpool seem distracted by their EL semi-final. If we can stay ahead of them, and Utd win the cup, we're in.