Dark Munster

Correct. But if Utd win the Cup and finish above us it doesn't matter in which position they (and City) end up, we would get EL provided we finish in 7th or higher.

Even better: 04) Liverpool and Sevilla draw after 120 minutes, and the decisive penalty kick is just like this:

Then they still go into the CL as an extra (5th) qualifier, and everyone else is unaffected (except maybe the CL seeding, but who cares).

For a club our size (and Leicester's) this is the most crucial thing I'd say. Of course luck is involved, but if we compare Leicester and Arsenal's record this season in this regard it appears to me that there's more than luck involved.

You're not missing anything, that is correct. But we do need to cheer Man Utd in the cup. Which may be painful for some of us.

Utd yes. But it doesn't matter if Liverpool win or lose. It only goes down to 2 EL if they finish in an EL spot but qualify for CL. For example, if they win EL and finish 8th they enter CL and the PL gets the usual 4 CL + 3 EL, plus a bonus CL for Liverpool (so 5 CL + 3 EL total). But if they win EL and finish 7th (say) and Utd win the cup, then their EL spot gets converted to CL for them, but no extra EL spot is opened up below them. So instead of 4 CL + 3 EL we get 5 CL + 2 EL. No-one gets punished, but 8th doesn't get rewarded either.

They don't have to mention EL. Liverpool would go into CL (an extra CL spot as they say) and everything else is unchanged.

As long as Utd win the cup.

4 CL + 3 EL is the usual maximum, not 4 CL + 4 EL, as far as I know. If a team qualifies for CL through winning the CL or EL then it can stay at 4 CL + 3 EL, or possibly go to 5 CL + 3 EL or 5 CL + 2 EL.

Doesn't matter if Liverpool win or lose. It only goes down to 2 EL if they finish in an EL spot but qualify for CL. For example, if they win EL and finish 8th they enter CL and the PL gets the usual 4 CL + 3 EL, plus a bonus CL for Liverpool (so 5 CL + 3 EL total). But if they win EL and finish 7th (say) and Utd win the cup, then their EL spot gets converted to CL for them, but no extra EL spot is opened up below them. So instead of 4 CL + 3 EL we get 5 CL + 2 EL. No-one gets punished, but 8th doesn't get rewarded either.

"It should also be stated," he added, "that an association with, for example, four places in the UEFA Champions League can increase their participation to five places should a club from their association win the UEFA Europa League in the previous season. "If that club has already qualified for the UEFA Champions League via their domestic league, then the association remains with four places in the UEFA Champions League. If that club has already qualified for the UEFA Europa League via their domestic league, it results in five clubs participating in the UEFA Champions League, and two – not three – participating in the UEFA Europa League." http://www.uefa.org/about-uefa/execu...d=2226990.html

"It should also be stated," he added, "that an association with, for example, four places in the UEFA Champions League can increase their participation to five places should a club from their association win the UEFA Europa League in the previous season. "If that club has already qualified for the UEFA Champions League via their domestic league, then the association remains with four places in the UEFA Champions League. If that club has already qualified for the UEFA Europa League via their domestic league, it results in five clubs participating in the UEFA Champions League, and two – not three – participating in the UEFA Europa League." http://www.uefa.org/about-uefa/execu...d=2226990.html

Correct! Provided Utd finish above us.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! Bloody media! 8th cannot qualify for EL. The rules are quite clear about that. Why do they keep repeating that myth????

You don't have to support them. Them winning the final will neither hinder nor help us get into EL. Utd in the FA cup is a different matter.

Understandable, but for me I see him as someone who gave a number of good years for us (including our rise from the lower divisions). Unlike Lovren, who buggered off after just one season, and whose manner of departure was just as bad, if not worse.

I think that's very possible. As an example, City surely would've fielded a much stronger team against us if they didn't have the second leg against Real Madrid a few days later. So I am hoping they scrape through (after a tiring 30 minutes of extra time). Besides, Lovren aside, I don't have much against them (now that Brenda's gone). Unlike those north London yobbos.

They are (like many) wrong about that. 8th could never have qualified for Europe (except if it's Liverpool finishing 8th and winning the EL).

If we finish 7th we only need Utd to win the cup (assuming they finish above us) to get into EL. If Liverpool win EL and finish 8th then PL gets 5 Cl + 3 EL. Full details at http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?56310-Europa-League-qualification

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?56310-Europa-League-qualification

Bump.

Good news for Hants this year. Maybe we can draw our way to safety!

No thanks. Over the hill.

That would've been brilliant, but us losing and them then going on to pip Leicester would've been too unpleasant to bear. So I'll take yesterday's result: better safe than sorry. If we win at WHL I'm sure you're still going to enjoy it!