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I beg to differ. If for example one of our number of blocked shots had gone in and we won 2-1, would we still have been shit?

This. If we had the confidence of Leicester, say, we would've won by 3 or 4 today. Which reminds me, I'm jealous of Leicester. Amazing transformation from this time last year.

Most got the Man City result correct.

Not necessarily. #butterflyeffect

First half we were undone by individual errors in defense, coupled with ruthless finishing and a superb strike. I wasn't able to watch the second half (lucky me), but presumably it was a case of going for shit or bust.

Saggy. Beat that.

For some strange reason I'm optimistic about this one. A Lovren o.g. in the 90th minute to win it would be ideal of course. Or, if it goes to penalties:

Disagree completely. Luggy was a decent if unspectacular manager for us. And it wasn't his fault that the ruddy cheeked bastard replaced him with that walking disaster Wigley. One would have thought that Lowe would have learnt from his Gray fiasco.

Top two by a mile, Saggy and Br*nf**t. Both were appallingly bad, and on top of that utter ****s. 1. Saggy wins it, for getting us relegated and not giving a toss, blaming the players almost from day one, and then crawling back to the skates after "mission accomplished". ****ing bastard. 2. Br*nf**t was also a disaster, but didn't get us relegated and actually won 5 in a row (God knows how). 3. Wigley 4. Poortvliet 5. Gray 6. Wotte All drooling incompetent disasters. No better than Br*nf**t, but not as obnoxious. 7. Souness One or two good performances in between mostly dross. Miraculously didn't relegate us.

Good point. Maybe Sir Ronald is doing an anti-Poch, and playing the weakened team in the league, saving all first choices for the cup. If we win on Wednesday all is forgiven.

Good job the attacking Cedric was dropped in favour of the more solid defensive Yoshida.

The 6-3 against (10 man) Utd aside, Souness was appalling. It was a miracle we stayed up under his incompetence, and that's not even considering Ali Dia (R.I.P.)

George Weah tweeted it last night, apparently.

I'm also sorry to hear about his shocking passing.

City are a decent side. Coming back off a home defeat a draw would be a very good result.

A small bit of amusement in an otherwise miserable weekend.

It's ok, you can call them bastards here without the asterisks. ****ing ****s is a different matter.

Horrible, horrible weekend.

And a whale of a dive. Anyway, back to the DFCSBs: if they keep dropping points there is a real danger of them falling out of joint first place. I'm wondering if this is the shit or bust season for them if they don't get promoted? A bit worrying , those parachute payments aren't going to last forever.

I think it partially resets the bookings count. The two yellows are gone (they combine as a red and the suspension), leaving him on three yellows. Two more yellows (not in the same match!) before the cut-off date and he gets another suspension, I believe.

I think you'd be a lot happier if you'd just tell yourself that Wigley and Saggy were appointed instead of your beloved Glenda, due to the "vocal minority". That way you could direct your ire at the clowns actually responsible for our relegation. Of course, that would be rewriting history, but you have no problem doing that. This.

Trying to decide which is the best retort. a) ... for Stoke b) ... if we're 3-0 down at half-time. c) ... when we play City in a week's time.

IMO Luggy had lost you before he even walked into the stadium

Not only that, he had a decent record here: something like 1.23 points per game, despite for much of the season he had many first teamers out injured. But, apart from some pretty entertaining football and a respectable points record, he certainly was shite. His two games in charge during the relegation season (one win and one loss) were certainly what sent us down. Nothing Wigley or Saggy could do after that terrible start.