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The Top Ten Conspiracy Theories - If You Believed One Of Them
Viking Warrior replied to Gemmel's topic in The Lounge
I also worked in a A&E and can confirm a number if strange objects having to extracted fron parts of the anatomy . A gear stick being one such item -
The Top Ten Conspiracy Theories - If You Believed One Of Them
Viking Warrior replied to Gemmel's topic in The Lounge
Some great old black and white photos on BBC news web site . I have always believed that Kennedy was killed by a n others and Oswald was either involved or was a decoy . I have believed this since I was about 14 . Anyway back to the photos . Nobody looks startled or surprised in them when a cool smartly dressed ruby appears and shoots Oswald . No anguish shock surprised look on their faces when this happens . I am of the firm believe Oswald did not act alone . Ruby shot him not as a concerned Texan but because he was part of the assassination . I'm going to go into my attic and find all the school project I did for this . -
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Lots of jobs in Shetland about to happen re 4bn oil operations . You will be good will oil Jamie if the rumours are true . Plenty of fash and chips to fry for the workers.
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The Top Ten Conspiracy Theories - If You Believed One Of Them
Viking Warrior replied to Gemmel's topic in The Lounge
Watched the tv programme . So Kennedy was accidentally shot by a fed agent . Lucky shot falling backwards as he tried to get his weapon after the first shot or was it deliberate . Shame jack ruby and Oswald died so soon after events -
Went to tescos yesterday and looked at the books . There was redkrapps book . Had a quick open the book and it's full of brown envelopes and the preface is written by a dog . Great selling ploy arry
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im pleased it made the kids day
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and finally in response to pap Thanks Pap Well done VW. The UK and US governments searched fruitlessly for proof that Assad was responsible. They didn't find it, so I'm glad you have. Have you telephoned William Hague yet? He'll be thrilled to hear your news. Thank you for correcting me. I have know need to phone Mr Hague You could well be right , Maybe it wasnt Assad directly , no one really knows, the weapons belonged to his forces even if they were captured by the opposition and used by them . I was quoting a number of recent media outlets and have not seen any final un report as to who was to blame Syria are signed up to the GC protocals and the weapons should never have been used. Fullstop
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Badger re your point How many Israeli Presidents and Prime Ministers were 'terrorists' complicit in the deaths of British troops You are totally spot on with this . Had my dad not been out on patrol while the other half of his platoon were sleeping, then there is every likelyhood i would not be here today. Yes the Hagana butchered 7 of his mates while they were sleeping. He was with 5bn Parachute regiment So i know all about that and who were members of that organisation and then became prominent politicians. I have pictures of the military funeral in Ramallah with one showing my dad being one of the pall bearers as well as pitures of him and some of those that died which were taken about a week earlier. My dad never talked about that day, it was too painfull for him right till the day he passed away. All I know is that he never had time for the israeli politicians and it was only after he died I found the real reason he did not have any time for the Irsaeli politicians etc. They murdered some of his best mates
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Syria are signed up to the Geneva convention and protocals but still used chemical weapons against non combatants Are the likes of assad to be charged for premeditated murder, I doubt it. Many countries who are signed up to the geneva convention and protocals breach these protocols
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antrim you talk about "Justice has to be seen to be done". What about Martin Mcguiness and his friends Oh he was a freedom fighter and therefore there is a different rule for the likes of him and others
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THE BLOG. The huffington post . This puts a different view on what the prosecution focused on The Royal Marine Murderer Kevin GodlingtonNov 12, 2013 Clarification: The image previously associated with this blog did not depict any of the Royal Marines recently tried by court martial for murdering an injured Afghan insurgent in September 2011 Like the majority of the UK, I was disturbed by the recent conviction of a Royal Marine Commando, charged with murder. However, as much as the conviction in the eyes of the law and polite society is correct, and the law as we know must be upheld, it still leaves an extremely unpleasant taste in the mouth, for there is much more to the background of these incidents than meets the eye. It may be open and shut in the legal sense, but is not open and shut in the moral and ethical sense. The test maybe the law, but the proving ground is the battlefield. Now before you start getting all excited into thinking I am about to justify murder, wait one second and consider if you will some social mitigation. The murder happened five months into an arduous six-month tour of Helmand province in 2011 with Marines A, B and C based at a command post. Their task was to bring stability and security to Helmand. Against this backdrop, the threat posed by so called enemy combatants determined to rid Afghanistan of ISAF forces continued as the annual fighting season began that summer. Every day patrols would come under attack. The troops were expected to treat injured insurgents with dignity and respect. Those are the rules set out by international law, the Geneva Convention and the rules set out by the British Military, which we all as service personnel try to abide by. Those are the rules and rightly so. Marine B was under attack every single day and there had been 10 casualties in just one 24-hour period. Marine C said the deaths of his troop commander and the serious injuries suffered by two others in the bomb blast were 'pretty devastating'. "It was a serious loss to both our command post, the troop and the company four people that we were all good friends with, absolutely devastating really," he said. Obviously the gravity of the situation had further instilled the reality - things could very easily spiral out of control. In total, the British troops carried out thousands of patrols, deployed on 92-partnered operations with the Afghan National Security Forces, and discovered nearly 10 tonnes of explosive. They also built 40 new schools and eight new clinics. So, what makes young men shoot wounded and dying combatants on the battlefield, and not afford them the gentlemanly conduct afforded the enemies of yesteryear? The Germans, Argentines, Italians have all felt the brunt of the might of the British Military machine, all had their vast armies dissembled by our gallant advancing troops. Did atrocities happen? Sure. Were they limited to the few? Of course. What then makes this incident different? Where is the gentlemanly conduct, the white flag of surrender, the handshake of truce, the cup of tea with the British POW camp commander as you are led to medical attention and then custody? I will tell you where it is. It is on rose-tinted old movies portraying the good ole chaps and their advance to contact in a glamorous-romanticized-chivalrous era of crap. In reality, war is bloody, noisy, messy, the stinking stench of cordite and burnt flesh, the noise of attack helicopters overhead and 'danger close' bombing runs, the fizz of shoulder mounted rockets and whacks of RPGs, the screams of the enemy and your own "man down" or "help me please" or "I'm bleeding to death"; the petrified voices of young soldiers trying to attract a medic to come to their aid. Expeditionary war is a dirty, bloody, abhorrent affair that involves young men taking metal projectiles laced with fast burning metals to cause as much sharp and blunt penetrative trauma of their flesh as possible, involving occasionally a close with the enemy that involves drawing bayonets. The reader will probably be unaware that British troops have killed with the bayonet only this last year! Out of ammunition and forced into such close proximity with enemy combatants that the order to fix bayonets was given and acted upon. The Taliban does not like surrendering. It hides behind non-combatants, and often lays down mortally injured where it fell with hidden grenades and booby traps waiting to take you with them to their paradise. But what makes this story in Afghanistan all the more poignant is that we are not fighting a uniformed, gallant, courageous and disciplined enemy who wants to toil laboriously in combat by aligning itself with the Geneva Conventions or rules of war. They do not follow any rule or any law, save as for the one where it is acceptable to hide behind women and children, sit inside a mosque and use it as a fortification. Where an enemy that thinks nothing of executions in public of captured British and American soldiers or citizens, sawing their heads off whilst they are still alive and putting images all over the internet. Half the American and British soldiers I know do not want to be there, we are not fighting for the liberty of our sceptred isle, or for freedom. We are fighting a ridiculous insurgency with ridiculous odds, without much provenance to support the counter terrorism theory behind it all, and with cowards in Whitehall pretending to understand leadership. It is a game with us all pretending it is honorable and just. Well guess what? None of it is just, honourable or chivalrous. Get real people. During this tour, where the murder occurred, seven marines were killed with more than 40 injured, many maiming injuries. Marines A, B and C saw the deaths of their company commander and another marine, who died together in a massive IED blast. The Taliban hung body parts from dead and wounded Marines on trees. A mark of tribal, archaic and medieval misery not seen since Vietnam and Korea. Marine B said he was under attack 'every single day' and there had been 10 casualties in just one 24-hour period. He said, "My friend's legs had been put in a tree; I picked my mate's brains up. I have no good memories of that tour. My way of coping with that was to put it away in a box at the back of my head and essentially as best as I could delete it from memory." So, do we need to ask what makes men with adrenaline coursing through their bodies in the spur of the moment commit acts like this? What made this marine shoot a man at close range in the heart, euthanising him from his already presumed fatal injuries? Let's explore that for a moment. We are raised to know that spitting at someone on the streets is assault; we are not witness to citizens dying from disease in the streets of London as our forefathers were. We live healthily and well with one of the longest life expectancies in the world. Yet every now and then, we send our brave, well adjusted, socially developed, none-spitting-at-people-in-the-street troops into combat with bayonets fixed and teeth gritted, to thrust, cut and penetrate enemies of the state. Medieval brutality occurs, a prime evil default setting comes to the fore, in stark contrast to back home. We send these troops into harms way to watch their friends cut up and hung in trees, to see their mates die by the roadside begging for their mothers. Then when one of them silences a dying fatally injured combatant with a single gunshot to his chest while blubbing a few stupid and bravado riddled words, showing off no doubt to the younger marines, we sentence him by the same standards we would back home. Murder. Life in prison. We allow ourselves to enter these vacuums and then seek to legitimize, criminalize and militarize the same. That surely is the one true crime. Let those who are without sin, cast the first stone..
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On another issue re the moral dilemmas in war . What would you have done in this situation . An Argentinian soldier is badly wounded and has horrendous trauma he is also on fire and is screaming in agony . You can't get near him to give him first aid as the argies will not stop firing let alone go to the aide of this soldiers . What would you do let him die a horrendous death . Lose a few men trying to help him in the process despite the ever present danger or . Put them out their misery ?
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Antrim . We might have signed up to the Geneva convention but the Taliban haven't how many atrocities have they committed . Have they ever been tried for war crimes or premeditated murder . .?
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The BBC now a US aircraft carrier and its escort of two cruisers are due to arrive off the Philippines to help communities devastated by Typhoon Haiyan. they have also mobilised a USN hospital ship Mean while the UK sends a warship maybe the real messsage the bbc is conveying is due to all the military cut backs we only now have one warship the rest have been either scrapped or mothballed
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For those that dont know HMS Daring is a type 45 destroyer . They are going to the philipines to provide , aide shelter and fresh water ads the vessel is equiped with a desalination unit. My only concern is that it is full steam ahead for the vessel, that will cost the navy thousands as they will burn more fuel than normal and probably cause more green environmental damage by going too fast
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You do not hear the Media and particulalry the BBC refer to the RAF hercules aircraft as war plans , who are also involved in this relief effort , They state a hercules aircraft from the RAF is involved If they are going to refer to The RN involvement why cannot they not just Say HMS Daring is helping out Not the UK is sending a Warship to the area. They are not going there because it is a war, but because the UK and other countries around the world are helping out with the disaster relief
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Lets be fair to Hoddle , he wasnt the only one that didnt pick MLT There was also mr vegatable as . but they were part of the same club and they both probably were acting like spoilt school girls because Matt decided not to join the spuds Hoddle is hypocritical for a lot of reasons but his is deision not to select Matt was one of the biggest and now that been confirmed by the the lallana article PR***
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Why is it that a major disaster happens in the world and then you hear the media and in particular the BBC stating Britain is sending warships to the area . why can they not just say Britain is sending royal navel vessels to the area to help those that who have been hit by the hurricane instead if warships . It's not the first time the RN have helped with disaster relief . Those on board have many skills and are able to get to these areas very quickly . I'm sure the Aussies etc will also be sending their navy and airforce to the area to assist
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I think a cleaner in Manchester will sacked for this. The bods at the top always pass the blame to the lowest common denominator
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The Top Ten Conspiracy Theories - If You Believed One Of Them
Viking Warrior replied to Gemmel's topic in The Lounge
paps hiding behind the grassy knoll. the smoke you see rising is not smoke from a gun but a quick fag paps is having -
The Top Ten Conspiracy Theories - If You Believed One Of Them
Viking Warrior replied to Gemmel's topic in The Lounge
Gemmel you must be too young if you do not recall tne mccartney rumour The other ine that should be added to the list is that of fergie time -
The dell was special being in crushed in that 31k plus game against united . Tommy Jenkins Ron Davies john mgrath Gerry gurr Brian o'neill pea hey nick Holmes john Sydenham and many more so many memories of the dell . I still miss it
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Toilets were phish . The noise was tremendous when we really got going . The fitzhugh arms pre match and the pensioners post match beer made for a good afternoon out . There's lots of positives about the dell even if it was on its last legs
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War is war .it was wrong what he /they did . What was Tommy Taliban up to at the time . I don't hear that any comment about that. He had hand grenades on him. . He could easily have taken the lives of marines if they had tried to help him . Sounds like he was near to death when they went up close . Had mr Taliban have been evacuated and taken back to bastion and survived and returned back to the Taliban . It would only been a matter of time before he was laying Ied,s Damned if you do damned if you don't . However it was wrong that the marine shot the poor soul . I think it will be bad for marine b to return to his unit. He will find life very difficult in my opinion