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I just read this piece of crap by Wotte on the OS. I have always felt loyalty to the incumbent manager but this is too far. Did he even see the march? It wasn't just a few 'kids' (how ****ing patronising is that?). And the march was specifically not aimed at the squad or him/PV. It was aimed at Lowe. What sort of an arrogant idiot calls my loyalty to the club into question? Like many, I travel from miles away and follow the lads all over the land. I don't need a second rate bloke like Wotte to tell me not to march. What a farce this club is. LOWE OUT.

So long as we get deflation in our football tickets as well!

I have saved them. Still takes time. And who's really convinced that the VAT rate will be reset to 17.5%? It might have to go up even further..

please see post above... I am not against Trident, never have been and never will be. It was a tongue in cheek post.

I just watched Digby Jones (Lord) on his 'Jobs Search' program on tele. There is this lad, 19 years old, just lost his job at Nissan. Honest to God, if I was him I would join the Army. Good pay, good mates and you get to shoot people. Ok, a bit flippant, but why not? If I had my time again and I was 19 and this ****ing Brown-induced depression came my way I would sign up. Must be better than signing on every week...

yeah, but the real crime was Tricky Dicky ditching the gold standard once and for all in 1971. And Mr Bretton and Mrs Woods lived happily never after...

Cod knows. Or some Jorno fishing for a story. Call the AA - Aqua Accidents Seriously though, this is ****ing embarrassing for Her Most Gracious Majesty's Royal Navy. Just how the **** does one hit another sardine can in the middle of the Atlantic? I reckon the bloody Frogs were trying to invade us. Some relative of Bonaparte got on board a Froggy tub and had a crack. But our boys were more the match!

Stupid comment if ever there was one. It takes more than a GCSE to be brave enough to do what they do. Are you just trying to be insulting on purpose?

..or just not got rid of the decent English manager we actually had before poortvliet...

Ah! A classic Keynesian! This 'spend your way out' theory has its detractors as well. It is well argued that contrary to popular belief the US did not climb out of depression in the late 30's early 40's because of the government spending program (new deal) but because they entered WW2. But then there are those who think that the new deal dit actually work. Either way, what is for sure is that to spend one's way out of a recession/depression it is no good spending on the highstreet. It has to be on massive heavy-infrastructure projects (hoover dam employed thousands) and the money (debt) has to be contained in a closed economic loop where it feeds back into the system. Incidentally this is precisely why the US is able to spend a trillion bukcs a year on the military. It is sustainable (what ever the loony left says) because they only ever buy US made ships and planes and bullets. Net effect is the money recycles within the US. As for the VAT rate cut. It has been a pain in the r-s for me. I spent half a day changing all my invoice templates and accounts system and will have to do like wise when it reverts back. So I lose one whole day of my year for bugger all gain. Why not just reduce the income tax rate by the same amount? That's why Brown is a plonker. He hasn't got a clue what one day of my year costs me! 0.3% of my year. May not sound like much but I have not used that time for fee-earning work...

What's that s'posed to mean? sarcy barsteward! Still, if Gordon Brown can't even give the submariners a frickin TomTom GPS then these things are bound to happen. It is a small ocean after all. Brown Out.

I reckon it was the Frogs who drove into our lot. Given the way they drive around Paris, not surprising really.

Was this you? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7892294.stm

Then you don't understand. You see, Mr Brown was chancellor of the exchequer from May 1st, 1997 until he became the prime minister. And the chancellor of the exchequer is ultimately responsible for regulating the banks. So, and I really am too tired to go in to detail, to cut a long story short he utterly failed to do his job and the rest is history. He is totally responsible, ultimately. That doesn't get the bankers of the hook, but when the ship goes down, as they say... Oh, and yes, he was so arrogant to think that he was such a miracle worker that he continually boasted that he had abolished 'boom and bust'. Nah, sorry the man is an idiot. And the worst part, he is mentally imbalanced to such a degree that he can't even admit that he might have had something to do with the turd we are in. This is the man who spent ten years tearing his hair out that Blair had the top spot. Brown has wanted nothing but to be in power, sucking up to the bankers, in his fantasy land of miracle worker. He will be judged by history as the worst prime minister this country has ever had, and guess what? We never even got to vote for him! Not even the Labour party got to vote for him to be their leader. The big problem facing the country is that the alternative, the Tories, is only better because it is NOT labour and Brown. There is nothing to actually inspire me about Cameron and his chinless wonders but at least they aren't the shower of corrupt, money grubbing shizters we have had wrecking this country for the last decade. As Obama would say: Time for Change. Get this imbecile out of No 10.

Brown started off blaming the American sub-prime crisis. He is totally incapable of accepting that it might have been his idiotic policies whilst chancellor which allowed British banks to go unregulated and get so caught up in the US problems. The man is about the most useless, arrogant egotistical non-entity ever to ruin this country. 'No more boom and bust'.. HA! HA! HA! what a w@nker.

No. Wrong. Superbly, utterly 100% wrong. Our politicians should have done things differently. For muppets like Brown to take all the credit in the good years - then say over, and over, and over again that he has abolished 'boom and bust' - and then when it all goes tits up to blame the yanks is pure utter ludicrous turd. Our politicians are to blame for our mess. There is no excuses. They failed our economy. Period.

Marx also maintained that no communist society would ever last long unless it had first gone through a sustained period of capitalist growth before hand, in order to get to a level of advancement which could ultiimately sustain communism.

I already do! I think they are sweet and cuddly, but with sharp teeth if need be...

eh? My Trident post was a tongue-in-cheek post! I have always been an ardent supporter of a strong, well equipped forces including a nuclear deterrent.

Good advice. I am slowly coming round to this point of view. Now all I have to do is find a country which needs me, has plenty of open space (I don't want to live in a shoe box), preferably where I don't have to learn another language (French is ok), and somewhere where the government is not so totally incompetent as to bankrupt the country. I must stress that I must be actively wanted by the country. I have always been against mass immigration in our own country so I would be very hypocritical if I then took someone else's job... I'm thinking: 1. Australia 2. New Zealand 3. Canada 4. South Africa (kinda, not a great choice, but it is sunny and the chicks are gorgeous) 5. Antarctica - think penguins are cool. 6. Do a VSO in Africa for 10 years, get paid tax free and save it all... but top of my list, and because it is still the best place for dreams to come true is... 7. The United States of America. If I could get a US work permit I wouldn't even bother to pack, I would be at the airport quicker than speedy gonzales. EDIT: and I know I said that the country had better not be bankrupt, and the US is carrying an eye-watering federal deficit but at least the dollar is still the world's reserve currency and they have ten aircraft carriers to keep it that way...

100% great idea. Proper recognition of the sterling work the services do on our behalf.

well I liked it. Why should the politicians hold the gangsters to account?

You're so correct. The thing I am strugling to comprehend is that I own nothing of much value - and I am also lucky to have not a single pound of debt. If I e-bayed my worldly possesions I reckon I would get about £7,000. That is what I have marked my 'assets' down as on my personal balance sheet. I ain't got a house or a shiny car or a trust fund or a stock market account or anything else. I earned about £22,000 last year by working friggin hard. That is an 'above average' wage in the UK. And at that level I can't save a solitary penny. I don't go on holiday anywhere, I don't eat out, I don't wear expensive clothes or anything luxurious. The only thing I do is attend the footy (which I will be doing less of next season). So I have spent this weekend playing with spreadsheets and trying to work out how much I must earn and how much I must save in order to have a semi-decent retirement. Basically, the nub is that starting from right now I must save at least £10,000 of post-tax income per year, hope for an average over the next 30 years of inflation of only 3% per year and interest rates of at least 7% per year in order to be able to retire at 65 with a nest egg of £600,000 which will be enough to buy an annuity of £25,000 for each year of my retirement. So the assumptions are: 1. I must save at least £10,000 per year (£833 per month) from taxed income 2. I must pray that average inflation is 'only' 3% over the next 30 years 3. I can get a good safe rate of return of 7% per year (real rate 7%-3% = 4%) In order to be able to save £10,000 per year I must earn a gross income of £40,000 per year, handing over £10,500 in taxes (present rates) leaving me with £1,633 per month after saving the £10,000. Out of this £1,600 some ****ing how I have to save for a deposit for a house and pay a mortgage (which will now be impossible to get, at least not above 75% of value). Then the sodding council help them selves to £100 per month and on and on and on. So a lot of assumptions and basically it looks ****. Life in Britain at the moment, from where I am sitting - aspirational but not wealthy - is a piece of turd. How the **** am I going to earn £40,000 just like that? Bull****. What is the point. **** off Gordon **** Head Brown. Oh yeah, and all my calculations are based on just me. It might be nice to dream about starting a family but that would seriously crucify my finances so I guess my sperm can stay where they are for now.

So a bloke called Bernie Madoff ran a ponzi scheme and the world's biggest ever fraud of $50 billion dollars. The American SEC (like our FSA) failed to spot it. This is how the American politicians deal with them. It is awesome. When will our feeble-rsed muppets in Westminster get tough like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys83oEAlvkM

I won't be renewing my ST because of economic reasons, namely I am skint and because the country is now in a depression I am only likely to get more skint. Therefore, regrettably I have had to take the decision to cut out all non-essential spending and that has got to mean football as well. This season I will have spent more than £1,000 supporting Saints all in all (travel, ST, away days, hotels etc) and I can not justify this next season. It is gutting. I will try to get to as many games as possible but I doubt it will be more than a handful, and only when I have spare cash at the end of the week. That there will be an added benefit of one less ST sold on Rupert's chart then good, but the reason I will not be renewing is primarily because I can't afford to.