John B

Yes that is the way I think too. Option B may even sell our best players to recoup their outlay and Option A would not

You seem to forget nothing happened between 2006 and 2008 when Lowe was not involved. When Lowe was here after that the falling Stock Market and Credit Crunch and the SFC financial situation made it really unlikely that anybody would buy the shares.

Well the coaching staff see something in him.

Wotte works with him everyday and obviously sees that with the right environment can flourish. Kevin Davies was released by us and is now one of the Premiership's top scorers. Just because a player is released by one club does not mean with the correct direction he will not flourish.

Your are correct I fear. One party could come in with an offer of say £5 million with a view to selling off loads of players with a view to recouping their outlay. While another could offer £4 million with a view to not selling players. Am I right?

Yes I agree but none of the Shareholders wanted to sell but how committed were SISU as they appeared not to respond to shareholders concerns. In fact I am not certain they were going to buy the shares anyway I think they were going to reduce value of the shares. Administration did the latter pretty well

Yes but we were told by Hone in 2007 we were in financial trouble but Leon appeared not to notice but I think we was expecting investment to be coming in..

If we dont lose any points yes but until recently it was assummed that Administration would lead to a reduction of points and selling off of the players. Lets wait and see before coming to that conclusion

Of course and the system

An assumption not a fact I would have thought.

Because they would have needed to buy the shares which they do not have to now.

To some extent it was the tactics at home did for us. We have 18 points at home 23 away

Yes in hindsight you are correct but In May it was probably thought that some of Rasiak John Skacel etc could be sold for a fee which would reduce the overdraft. But I still think not playing 442 was a mistake but that said our Strikers were the highest earners so playing them was going to cause a financial problem. But simple things like arguing at Cardiff in the last minute which led to their goal , giving a stupid penalty against Blackpool and missing two ourselves against Watford did not help either

I remember seeing Justin play for the Saints when was that? Was he on loan ? I remember he was not very good

Everton and Aston Villa are large clubs having won major domestic and European Honours in fact Everton have never been relegated unlike West Ham who have been relegated more than once in last twenty or so years. We were a small club with little money to throw at players. I remember listening to an interview with Lawrie Mac where he said that the club's ambition was to stay in the Premiership

I am really pleased but l it is a shame you dont show much common sense on this forum

Delusion The squad may have been the best if they were in their Prime but surely Claus Dodd Le Suax Telfer were getting slower and we had no commanding CB How many of that Squad got in the Saints greatest Team.

How rude You just appear to be a bit of a bully if people do not agree with you

I can argue but you just rant and go of on tangents. The main reason we got relegated was that the team was past it and we had no means to improve it in the short term.

That is an interesting point I dont know as it never occurred to me. Ipswich Reading and Crystal Palace fans I know seem more pragmatic but then they have not been in the top flight for as long as us

I cannot be bothered to continue to discuss with you because you keep going off on tangents I said one point at a time

I know it is different but I said there was not such an outcry and this helped us go forward that was my point

I think it was originally written in a foreign language and has been through a BABELFISH like translation.

Yes I do agree that playing poor football will mean that the crowds will be smaller but not going to games just because Lowe was there surely reduced revenue and has contributed to us going into administration not playing 442 may have been another I am not blaming anyone I am just pointing out there are a number of reasons why the club finds it self in the position it does today. Many fans have not taken relegation from the Premiership very well I remember in 1974 when we got relegated with a better team than in 2005 there was not such an outcry. Relegation did contribute to our demise but it should not have . The anti Lowe feeling led to Wilde coming in and he appeared believed like Crouch did ,that investment was around the corner and just spent assumming somebody was going to come in and pay the bill

I dont want to to have a slanging match and upset you So Let us go through point by point. Point One I suggested you were in a fantasy world because you appeared not to have accepted the situation that at the beginning of the season that because we had to reduce costs the team would struggle as they lacked experience and talent and the games would be poor.