John B

Yes you are right but the club will always be there and there will be good times ahead somewhere along the line. Having supported the club for fifty years I remember the good times with affection when money had not ruined football like it has today. The Premiership with all its money has caused our demise bring in people like Lowe Hone Delieau etc who are in it to get some of this money

You maybe right but I thought he was cutting costs to try to balance the books and save us from Administration. But what do I know Whatever he tried to do did not work. But then it was virtually an impossible task as he could not sell the high earners I still think Wilde destroyed the club not Lowe but both should go

Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing. Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table. Last season we were not much better hardly winning away

No Crouch is not to blame much but he was taken in by Wilde's fantasies that is my point. I just wish he had worked with Lowe in 2006 thats all

Thats right cost cutting because of our debts makes the team worse and we get in less people paying . Not playing 442 did not help either Paying more for players gets a better team more supporters but probably more debt A difficult situation to resolve which Lowe has found out especially when he was unable to sell anybody bar Davies for any sort of money.

Yes good post 3 and 4 probably caused 5 to 10 to happen

Of course it may have but having to reduce costs surely is going to make the team worse

Yes that could be true but having a crap team does not help If we had done better last season we may have had more season ticket holders

No money means a crap team and crap attendances this season Money means a crap team last season with attendances boosted by season ticket holders expecting us to be promoted

Why were Euell and John signed We already had BWP SAGA Rasiak but we had not many decent defenders. I know John scored lots of goals but maybe Rasiak and Saga would have if they played

Yes you are right Sid but Rasiak was a Burley Lowe signing I believe

So going into Administration is nothing to with the financial state the club is in because income is less than expenditure together with the massive loss incurred last year because of the facts articulated by SIDTHESQUID

No because Lowe was not involved when the players were signed on massive wages we could not afford neither was Wilde when Euell and John were signed. These are the facts surely.

Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch. Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today

Yes but whoever was in charge this season would probably have led us to administration. I bet Crouch is really happy he is just like us a fan. It is the same with the UK economy the Tories and Liberals are laughing because they not in charge

I know you dont like Lowe but surely most of the blame should be heaped on Wilde That is my point. But when Lowe goes are you going to be a happy little Alpine or have you another hate figure lined up?

Lots of teams get relegated from the Premiership in fact three every season We are in the mess now because we spent too much on players fees and wages

Lee Harvey Oswald had one contact the Dallas Police

Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster

Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats. The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players

I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success. Where was the money to come from? We were investing in the Academy and if Bale Walcott Jones had not been sold we would have been in administration earlier WE have been trying to get investment for years Losing Strachan was the key because we were rudderless

Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed. We needed to off load our high earners by selling them and not loaning them to reduce the overdraft

Yes I totally agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies. Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory. But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC

Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit

It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages