John B

They probably are thick as mince and do not understand the laws. Referees and umpires sometimes get things wrong but should be respected otherwise there would be no sport.

This thread reminds me that had a hell of a hangover 45 years ago today Stupidly I tried to get into Channon's testimonial after watching Hampshire lost to Derbyshire in the B and H Cup on the Monday Despite losing we qualified for the knock out stage where Mike Procter then wrecked Hampshire's hopes as he took 4 wickets in 5 balls, including a hat-trick. First he bowled Greenidge and then trapped Richards (though the latter always claimed he got an inside edge) and Jesty lbw, and comprehensively bowled John Rice. Great Memories

If we do not lose against Fulham we stay up so lets hope we get a point when we play them

If we do lose to Crystal Palace and Fulham we deserve to go down

I doubt many of the Saints players would get into the Spurs teams Saints have hardly ever beaten Spurs in the League so I find it unsurprising that we lost especially as we are currently playing poorly

I think ten clubs have better squads than us and four have worse So I would expect us to finish 11 to 16th but as we recently lost to both Villa and Wolves recently 13th to 16th is not an unreasonable place to be at the moment

365 for 5 just before lunch pretty turgid progress although Daws did hit a 6 and a 4 in one over Alsopp out for 149 I think

A bit disappointing but both Leicester and Spurs have better players than us and both challenging for CL places so unsurprising

I do not think e have not frittered away money we have just bought some players who did not fit into our team and the PL Although buying Carillio I agree was a ridiculous signing but the others in my opinion were not

We have been top of the leaague quite often early in the season but have not been top at the end of the season for nearly 50 years

I think you and other Saints supporters should get a bit more realistic especially as the clubs coming up next season could be Norwich Watford and Bournemouth which were relegated last season and may possibly relegated next too You need to accept that SFC has not got the financial clout of most of the clubs in the PL never has and never will that is why it will usually be where it is currently in the PL table towards the bottom but at least we are a PL team and likely to be one for sometime. Top class players will not come to the club because we cannot afford them young players will because playing in the League could be a stepping stone to one of the top teams However performances like yesterday's do not go down well unless we have the rub of the green and win We beat Man City last season with a fluky goal last season but that only happens with a bit of good luck. If Diallo had scored and Leicester's goal had not we would have won and that was their only shot on target Football is a game of fine margins and we would be in our third cup final in my lifetime We were lucky to have played against Watford and Crystal Palace to get to those Finals this time we had to play a team in the top 4 of the PL and recent Champions I am pleased to be a Saints Fan we have played quite well during the last year beating top teams and getting to the Semi Final just because we have had a drastic loss of form lately that happens in football especially in 1n 1974 when we got relegated after not winning for something like 15 games but I doubt we will get relegated this time. I have friends who support Ipswich QPR Reading and Nottm Forest and would gladly have our position in the PL

At least nobody had to pay to get to Wembley and waste their money

I started with Marshall and Gray

Sacking Puel was completely stupid Sacking Hasenhüttl at the moment would also be stupid as he has better stats than Puel but if we get relegated that is a different situation Sacking Pellegrino was the right thing to do as was sacking Hughes who did the job he was brought in for In the first thirty years I followed the Saints no manager was sacked how the PL has changed that

Here is my little offering I do not know precisely what the strategy of SFC really is and what its objectives really are Clearly the main objective seems to be to run the club profitably using only revenue the club earns The second objective is probably to remain in the PL and to hope for success in Cup Competitions If that is the case Ralph is not failing so there is no need to replace him as he is performing reasonably well to meet these objectives Saints are now an established PL club And not a YoY o club like WBA Fulham Norwich Reading Sheff Utd etc and I doubt with Ralph in charge we will get relegated next season with the Clubs coming up from the Championship I am 75 years of age and have supporting the club since I was a teenager and Ted Bates was manager and since 1966 when Ted Terry Paine and Martin Chivers took us to Div 1 have fully supported the second objective Although it may have failed a couple of times it has kept me interested for 55 years including watching teams like Hartlepool Dagenham Redbridge Yeovil etc in League 1 and trying to keep up to date with results in 1978 when we gained promotion in 1978 whilst travelling in SE Asia and Australia without the Internet I fully realise that the Les Reed era tried to suggest that the club would be challenging for European Football but that was completely unrealistic without massive investment which some of the other clubs seem to be able to afford So I think your idea of sacking people who are probably doing a good job to help Ralph in doing what the club wants is not the way forward Of course I would like the club to challenging for League honours but in the 50 or so years Saints have been in the Top Division I would have thought our current league position would be similar to the average over that time and that will hardly change without out spending loads of dosh

I can read I think your original post is barking

We have won cup matches we played well in the first half of some games and the second half of others my point is that we are not crap all the time Although I do think the manager is because he never seems to be able to react and changed the outcome of games and just hopes for the best

I am sort of with you but WBA were pretty good and had lots to play for and we have everything to play for next Sunday lets see what happens in our remaining league games before we decide on Ralph's future Lets face it we cannot be that bad against Leicester we are so inconsistent the only consistency about us is our inconsistency

Seems a bit harsh on Redmond who scored the winner and made an assist especially as Adams made a complete hash of a chance towards the end of the game

I don't think it was dishonest it was just like life sometimes things go right sometimes they do not and it is impossible for refs to be right every time

Earlier, Wolves had been denied a goal when the video assistant referee ruled that Daniel Podence's arm was fractionally offside before he crossed for Willian Jose to head in. Seems crazy to me it is football not armball what advantage does the player have in this situation as surely he is not going to score with his arm Like somebody mentioned earlier it should depend where the players feet are and it is not fair on players with large beer guts

YES

I think both Claude and Ralph have done reasonable jobs dont you

Very true no outstanding players anywhere