John B

I fully expect another loss as we are not clinical enough in attack and make mistakes in defence

Very true if things go wrong we lose focus

Why would it sharpen him up

Yes I thought he was OK I think he may have passed away I think he went to Tauntons with Window Cleaner

You are a fool Wes an absolute fool and your ilk inhabit a completely different world which is completely lacks understanding and reality which will cause great hardship to most people in this country - Leaving the EU is a complete Shitshow Just look as what is happening after only a few days as described in the Observer by people with experience Ministers must restart trade negotiations with Brussels immediately to sort out the “baffling” array of post-Brexit rules and regulations that now threaten much of the UK’s export trade to the EU, leading business groups have said. Amid mounting anger among UK firms at cross-border friction they were told would not exist, British manufacturing and trade organisations met Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove in an emergency session on Thursday to discuss problems resulting from the deal struck by Boris Johnson with the EU before Christmas. The prime minister had hailed what he claimed was a “zero-tariff” and “zero-quotas” deal that would allow free and simple access to the single market. Less than a month on, however, Britain’s EU departure appears to be anything but pain-free. One leading figure involved in the talks with Gove described the new rule book as a “complete shitshow”. Another said Gove seemed “very concerned” at hearing reports of problems, after a week in which Marks & Spencer was among leading companies to warn that more bureaucracy would increase costs. The source added: “He [Gove] seemed to realise the full gravity of the situation that is unfolding and about to get worse.” Gove admitted on Friday that there would be “significant additional disruption” at UK borders as a result of Brexit customs changes in the coming weeks. In the first week after the UK finally left both the single market and customs union, the parcels firm DPD suspended some of its services, bookseller Waterstones halted sales to customers in the EU and UK fishermen warned they would not be able to sell their fresh produce into EU markets because of delays at borders. There were also problems with consignments between Great Britain and Northern Ireland as new border checks caught many businesses unawares. Luxury food store Fortnum & Mason also told customers on its website: “We are temporarily unable to deliver to Northern Ireland or countries in the European Union”, while Debenhams has temporarily shut its online business in Ireland. Some of the problems are being blamed on a rushed deal, and others on the sheer complexity of arrangements including “rules of origin”, some of which have not been finally determined. Only goods made up largely of parts that originate in the UK qualify as tariff-free. Stephen Kelly, chief executive of the Northern Ireland business organisation Manufacturing NI, said: “The reason why the UK and EU originally agreed that there would be an implementation period of 11 months was so that people could get their heads around what was needed and assure their businesses were compliant. But we didn’t have that. We had seven days before everyone had to be ready, and one of those was Christmas Day. “There is a big problem with GB businesses being unaware of their new responsibilities. We have the triple whammy here of Covid, Christmas and new customs rules arriving all at once without any time to adjust.” Johnson assured Northern Ireland business owners in November 2019 that they would have “unfettered access” to the rest of the UK. “There will be no forms, no checks, no barriers of any kind,” he said. If anyone told them they needed to fill in forms, “tell them to ring up the PM and I will direct them to throw that form in the bin.” The government was also facing pressure over its Brexit deal from the SNP. Ian Blackford, the party’s leader in Westminster, called on the UK government to “pay compensation to Scotland”, claiming a “multibillion compensation package” was needed to mitigate the costs of Brexit in Scotland. Stephen Phipson, chief executive of the manufacturers’ organisation Make UK, said much still needed to be negotiated between the UK and EU. “Industry welcomed the trade agreement that avoided the catastrophe of no-deal, as tariffs and quotas would have been a disaster for exporters. However, this is only a starting point, as there are still substantial issues that need ironing out, with many months, if not years, of tough negotiations ahead. “There are customs experts with 30 years’ experience who are baffled by what the new regulations mean, let alone small- and medium-sized businesses who have never had to deal with the kind of paperwork that is now required. The great fear is that for many it will prove too much and they will simply choose not to export to the EU.” He also raised fears about the UK car industry, which could be adversely affected by tariffs if EU rules relating to the origins of components used in car manufacture cannot be met. “Having built up seamless and complex supply chains over decades, the automotive sector in the UK is facing a jolt to its systems that places its very future under threat,” he added. “While there is no suggestion multinationals will close plants overnight, we have already seen decisions to build new models placed elsewhere. As those models that have been built in the UK for many years come to the end of their life, we are likely to see a slow puncture for the sector of investment drifting away.” Dominic Goudie head of international trade at the Food and Drink Federation said talks needed to re-start between the UK Brussels. “Where problems emerge there will need to be further conversations,” he said. “The trade deal provides the means to do that. It is a question of whether is the will to do so” (after so many months of talks.” Sam Lowe, a senior research fellow at the Centre for European Reform, said there were problems that could grow over coming weeks and months. “The new import/export formalities are proving problematic for many companies. The lack of obvious queues at the border disguises the fact that many trucks are stuck in depots, unable to head to the ports due to their clients failing to provide the necessary documentation and information.”

As usual you do not seem to realise what you are talking about Yes we are getting new trade deals but they are the same or inferior to the ones we had when we were in the EU especially the Japan deal We are trying to get Free Trade deals with both Australia and NZ with FOM but both countries have rejected our advances because they do not want to be flooded with low skilled Brits There are free ports in the EU. There were free ports in the UK until 2012, when UK legislation establishing them expired. So presumably they were not thought to be a good thing Most of reputable business does not want to reduce your so called red tape because they are in effect standards for their products which they wish they keep when competing with other EU countries However the EU FT deal as aknowledged by Gove is going to be crippled for traders by Red Tape for goodness knows for how long But yes you are right in that the UKIP wing of the Tory Party want to cut loads of rights in the work place in order to increase profits and reduce workers benefits and wages There are significant issues still with Fishing NI Passporting in the Financial Services sector and the ability for service providers to gain Access to the EU without FOM as well as the loss of EU companies relocating to the EU So we are no where near the Sunny Uplands and £350 m a week we were promised According to the Bank of England the cost of leaving the EU is at least £80b which I would have thought was far from being of great Value Keep safe but do read some articles written by Business People Economists Hauliers and Fishermen as you seem to be indoctrinated by Brexit propaganda You could have a St Paul on the way to Damascus moment on the way to St Mary's and see the error of your ways

A week ago, Brexit became reality – and it’s as bad as we all feared, with barriers to trade and a loss of rights. One week into 2021, here’s how those sunlit uplands are looking: Businesses hit with red tape, delays and costs: New customs declarations have put up barriers to trade, as a consequence of which many UK companies ceased trading with the EU this week, hauliers have been turned back at ports, the cost of sending packages to the EU has shot up and EU companies have stopped delivering to UK customers. €6bn has already left the City, with worse to come: Six billion euros of EU share trading left the City this week and is lost for good, while the loss of passporting rights on January 1 and failure to agree a deal on equivalence has put £26 billion of financial services exports at risk. Travel to EU will be more hassle: From January 1, for anyone travelling to the EU, there will be more costs, paperwork, delays and limits, including a reduction in free healthcare and the return of roaming charges. You will also need more paperwork to bring a pet – even to take it to Northern Ireland. Brexit means borders within Britain.

I know you do not believe it but there were major advantages to be in EU and SM/CU that is why there are 27 Full members an other associates ones and that is why I have been trying to explain that leaving the UK is going to be awful for the UK with no tangible benefits I have no idea of your background but you dont seem to be very well informed on how the EU works and that WTO rules are worse than our current new treaty I used to work for a French IT company and realised how FOM SM/CU was so good for trade one benefit was we could ship hardware direct from the Factory in the Loire Valley direct to our UK customers without hardly any paper work . It is not so called bureaucracy it is real I have sold some football books to someone in Liverpool it took me some time to get the documentation sorted out.

Yes I agree Moyes made five changes they have a bigger squad of decent players than us the CB who was outstanding was playing his first game of the season in the PL I believe

Yes I agree Stephens played quite well as Vestergaard has all season but they all make mistakes if they did not they would be playing for the top teams Vestergaard gifted the ball to Kevin De Bruyne and Man City scored against us recently

Did you not think that West Ham were good defensively and deserved a point

And in a massive twist of fate, Brexiters have ended up coming to the rescue of the German carmakers by guaranteeing them tariff free sales in the UK! (While at the same time blocking the free movement of our services across the EU!)

Perhaps most poignantly, and even most importantly, dishonesty won. That in itself is a bad thing surely

Johnson says the deal ‘has delivered everything from the ‘2016 Brexit campaign’ So when will the NHS start getting its £350m a week? Today is Brexit’s highwater mark. In a few days time it becomes reality not unicornology. The damage will become clearer and clearer.

A deal that means: -Trade more difficult -More rules, red tape, cost -End Freedom of Movement -Nothing on services - 80% of economy -Data uncertain -And travel, insurance, pets problems And that’s good? Really

The deal is reportedly done. The first time in history that two parties have negotiated a deal that is inferior to the one they already had and other new deals especially the Japanese one is not as good as our current one Only fools will think it is going to be a great success

Perhaps the most amazing thing about Brexit four and a half years after the vote, is that no clear benefits have emerged, but the majority of people who voted for it are still willing to go along with it. Clearly, these people are suffering from abject denial.

As I said just wear a mask and stop talking shit

As the Chinese would say wear a mask and stop talking shit

We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release

Good performance but without really top class players we can not compete consistently with the Big City Clubs as our defeats against Spurs Man U Man City show

I am unable to move to a EU country because I do not have Freedom of movement and all the other advantages of the EU which were promised before the Referendum All I get now is angry people like you being rude and sometimes aggressive more expensive food and holidays not able to have a few beers with friends because of Boris' dreadful handling of Covid He would never have been elected if there had been no Brexit Its a good job the Saints are doing so well but that said they were doing well in 1973 when Channon missed a penalty against Arsenal and we got relegated later that season despite buying Osgood

How, right now, can you support the Conservatives when they're doing their best to destroy the country, the Union, its international relationships, its security, economy and the wellbeing of the people within it? What is the appeal in this failure and fish ? We started with a superb deal - full membership + opt-outs, rebate, veto. He promised he could EASILY IMPROVE it. He gambled our prosperity on a bluff on which you fully supported Boris Johnson won’t escape blame for Brexit forever

Does not make any sense “A patriot can criticise his country, stay with it, and goes through the democratic process. A nationalist needs enemies.” Seems to sum you up to a tee

Yes one of Maggie Thatcher's successes But the EU was the greatest and most successful Socialist movement ever created. It protected us all - in terms of what we ate, our basic human rights, our health, how we were treated in the office and our environment.