Window Cleaner

They haven't actually got you to believe all their old BS about that have they Nick??

Correct, the Champions League is boring, so is the UEFA. You know that the CL will be won by a side that cost at least 250 million to assemble and that the last 4 will be composed of similar clubs. The group strages are just for the show. Watched Marseille yesterday, big club, no money,about 19 Africans on a couple of bob a week=No chance.

The Catcher in the Rye? Well I would put it on everybody's must read list,but then that's just me. It's an insight into the workings of the fairly unbalanced adolescent mind. Still to some I suppose it would seem archaic and out of date nowadays, but then so is Shakespeare et al. I'm sure your local library has at least one copy.

Yes ,but that way they would get tonked by some megabucks club in the 2nd or 3rd round and we wouldn't have to watch them get thumped 4,5 or 6 times.

Well no, but that would explain exactly why he's getting the sack. Trouble is for little minnows like AAB the players get into a groove where all they think about is the CL games and their chance to get a big money transfer. Happens all the time, the league form drops away like a lead brick. Quite honestly sides like AAB have no place in the champions league group stages.

Strange that Rioch has been fired when he took them to the (very lucrative) group stages of the Champion's League. I mean they can't exactly have expected to win matches in the group,can they?? Must be over something else.

When you still drive a Metro ,you certainly know what crap looks like.

H'm brings back to memory the old puerile retort. Got a match? yep your face and my arse. My ,weren't we stupid when we were kids.

Well, not at first. I mean St Marc, isn't exactly the same as Mike Wilde is it.

Ah no, I've no experience of that,must try it sometime.

Master, why does the person in you avatar have to put grease on her arse to pull her knickers up?

Nope nobody has the right to disclose the identity of a fellow poster. If LongShot wants us to know, then he'll tell us. Anyway if you really wanted to know you only had to hang about at Ladbrokes in Shirley on the Monday after the Doncaster game. There's a clue, lives or works in Shirley probably.

Yep that's what I was saying. Unless you can seriously believe that the costs of running the football club (other than St Mary's and the player's coaches salaries) amount to the 11 million or so that we lost,then the non footballing activities must be losing as well.I still don't believe that Rupert Lowe would have paid Rasiak 20K a week, to me that's urban myth. But you see whatever we received for Rasiak in loan fee we immediately shelled out on A Davies, don't forget he was paid for (I suppose) in January.

don't think Holden actually stands in any rye fields. The catcher in the rye is a poem that keeps running through his head.It's by Rabbie Burrrrns.

Bet if Beckham signed for Portsmouth she wouldn't go anywhere near the dump. Having said that,anyone on the Great South this Sunday? say hi to Paula for me,she used to help my girl with her training at Font Romeu, a lovely lady.

Is there a paradox in there somewhere? Crouch and Pearson(well not so much Pearson) are the LAST thing we need.Crouch knew we had to sell players and not sign any(yep I mean Andrew Davies). We didn't actually sell any and I don't doubt that whatever we saved by loaning our Rasiak and Skacel was gobbled up by the loans at the end of last season,(Perry,Lucketti,Pericard,O Halloran,Wright, Ian Pearce and I've probably forgotten some as well) The only plus points on the revenue front:Whatever we got in loan fees and Burley's compensation. Bet we had to pay off Gorman and Dodd with whatever we got for Burley.

But if as you say we've reduced our costs already by 5 million or so (which is probably very likely ) that equates to 250000 match day tickets (£24 less vat) .If we're still losing money this season on 16K gates (average) that means that last season our break even figure was about 28K. Obviously we weren't going to get that so the statement by the execs that players HAD to be SOLD in the January window was justified.We needed a mass clear out last January, it was evident and the board knew it,why didn't it happen??? I mean we must be getting to the stage where non-footballing activities are costing the club money which has to be financed by football. There is no way that last seasons running expenses for the football side could equate to our entire income so I propose to you that the non-footballing activities are now detracting from the football. The stores must be losing money, so must the event catering and all that.

I don't think the operational loss was as high as 17 million actually Steve, 13 million is the figure I've always heard used. As I said the other day, last year we lost more than our entire player/coach wage bill. How we've gotten into a state where our "other running and administration costs" already gobble up all our income beats me. Doesn't matter how much the players earn, peanuts or mega-bucks, we can't afford to pay them anyway. If you pay the players (and coaches) 12 million in a year and lose 13 million,well then you need some tyro kids who'll play for free.

Master has a new avatar with black shiny drawers.:p

What's most worrying is that junior employees were already disenchanted with the execs in November 2006.Mind you there are some right gabby kids about, I fire anyone who speaks ill to outsiders of any colleague behind his(or her) back.

Well although Weston and LS both said it don't think most took it very seriously. I didn't. I have no doubt that if we don't get money for Saganowski this January, Surman and Lallana will be sold. I can live with that, you get used to it at SFC. But surely we can't be living off the 5000 walk up so far? I mean, 5000x£24 every 2 weeks doesn't pay all the bills. If we're at 8 mill NOW we'll be at 10 mill at least by Christmas. I worked out on the back of me fag packet (which is getting over full and dog-eared as I gave up in 1982) that we should still be living within our means.Perhaps there are incoming monies,perhaps we had back taxes to pay before.

Oh well, those that don't ask, don't want.

I promise not to be surprised if you tell me.:mad::mad:

Probably did, Crouch and the Execs kicked him out. Perhaps he wasn't keen on "march madness" either. That has got Crouch and Corbett stamped all over it. Knock off £100 from all early ST renewals, yep right smacks of good business management.

It depends on their living styles though doesn't it. Now as far as I can see we were playing Sunderland later that afternoon; But would the Manager and Chairman be involved in the next morning's events of the team? Probably not, as long as they were there for lunch that would be OK. When you live a varied life you sometimes have to adopt strange hours. It would seem to me that the week that followed that match was international week? ie no football for 14 days or so afterwards.Perhaps the players had been given time off afterwards. To have the full facts to judge the case you'd have to know all the whys and wherefores. You just can't judge anything reasonably from hearsay and half-facts.