Saint Fan CaM

8 days eh? Do you really, honestly believe that 8 days will be enough time to sort out the deal and get papers signed? 48 hours eh? You REALLY believe it was going to take that short amount of time?!? LOL. Look, I'm no expert and perhaps Fry can pull it out of the bag, but it now seems to me that its going to be bad news. Companies that I know of that have gone into administration and then take this long to sort out re-financing have arrrived at the point of no return. Its a hard pill to swallow and I am hoping I am totally wrong, but to me its looking like a disaster.

Oh yes... +1.

Thank God there's someone with half an ounce of common...

Yawn...errr, sorry, did someone say something...??

And your point is....?

Gut feeling, but lets just say that we travelled 80% of the time between Fry being appointed to 21st May when the next pay cheque needs paying. Thus (very approximately) 20% chance now in purely time based terms factoring in fact there are supposed bids on the table.

If nothing happens by this Friday, I think there's a good chance it's goodnight Vienna for SFC. This is frustrating, but its also extremely worrying and I am starting to develop a sense that Fry will fail as the supposed bidders are nothing but advanced tyre-kickers. If I were to put a figure on it, I would say there's only a 20% chance now of take-over going ahead before the club dies.

I like your thinking!

I cannot make the game and might have gone perhaps even at £20 - in fact probably would have bought two tickets. However, I have to wonder whether (a) its actually going to enable the takeover to be strung out furher and (b) we should be paying more money into a fund that we have no sight of in terms of its beneficiary. Its no good saying - "its to save the club" - when in fact a large proportion will go to paying the salary of players who have either not played for us this season and/or have put in rubbish performances for us and/or will be leaving SFC at the earliest opportunity - or indeed a combination of all of these. Sorry, but as much as I want Saints to survive and like others have said, the current state of affairs has to stop soon. We're fast running outta patience and wonga Mr Fry.

WHAT?! How the hell can that be - he had previously reported a bid had been made?

Calm down guys - do you really think MLT would get involved with a bidder that had no substance? Be patient - its not over yet.

LOL - you're right - see what happens when you're waiting for critical news from your fav footie team!

OK - there's a few battles being waged against ITK types on here, so I thought it would be a good idea to come up with a key that ITK's could use without revealing any sensitive info as follows. The ITK-er can just use the relevant keys to indicate what they know by making a code...(example code - starting with source... A:C:B:A:B:E). The rules are simple - use the code or do not post an ITK statement atall. Nobody is allowed to question a code - its there for info only. Failure to observe the rules means ban from the forum until such time Fry makes an announcement or SFC is no-more (gulp). A new takeover thread could be started to under here as a sticky for all new ITK rumours. SOURCE A = From the horses mouth B = From someone the horse knows C = From someone not connected, but highly trusted to know D = From a complete no-mark who is probably guessing AVAILABLE WEDGE A = Obscenely wealthy (>£1b) B = Healthy wealthy (>£500m) C = OK wealthy (>£100m) D = Piddling wealthy (£30-£100m) E = Wilde wealthy (oh dear) PLANS A = Prem in 4 years B = Prem in 5 years C = Prem in 6 years D = CCC in 5 years E = L1 for forseeable BIDDER NAME A = Household name to all B = Household name to few C = Person known within football world D = Person known to few E = Complete unknown or left-field LIKELY FAN APPRECIATION A = Will be ecstatic about this bidder B = Will probably love this bidder C = Will be happy but ambivilent D = Will be happy SFC is saved, but not overjoyed E = This is going to be worse than Lowe and Wilde combined TIMESCALE FOR REVEALING ALL A = Next 12 hours B = Next 24 hours C = This week sometime D = Any given Friday E = I do not have a clue - Fry is the man with the plan

When you say stretch, I take it you mean Ruperts waistband?

I am sure its not just Barings who found the scandal somewhat less than funny Duncan. It amply demonstrates the incompetencies of certain such individuals in the finance and banking industry including their detachment from the real world.

Most you guys are so gullible it beggars belief. The Echo says this, the Echo says that, the ITK fella says something else. Try to see the BIG picture - the club was about to implode and Crouch knew it...desperate and extreme measures were required to deal with certain activities (like Lowe taking £100k for a p/t job for example). His proposals might seem extreme, but in the context of the depths of cr*p we now know the club was in financially with imminent administration, why not try extreme? What the f*ck did Lowe and Wilde have up their esteemed collective sleeve? ZILCH!!!

Oh dear - more damning evidence of Lowe's incompetence when it comes to hiring people? He has more skeletons in his closet than he's had hot (world-class catering) dinners!! LOL

Wilde - you make me sick. The fact you played a huge part in the dismissal of Pearson thanks to backing Lowe just goes to show what a complete liar you are. IMO you have no right whatsoever to use the media to try to re-write history to save your own tarnished reputation. You and Lowe will go down in history as the most reviled men in SFC's past - complete and abject failures who almost killed the club.

You say this as if its a bad thing, but surely the opposite is true. Despite the fact we're teased with rumours from those supposedly ITK, simple fact is the show is not over until someone says it is and for that we need to be grateful. I will admit to being frustrated at the seeming lack of progress, but there is nothing we can do except wait patiently for news of a result.

Errmm, all very interesting, but the title says "lots of skeletons" - so far I count one or have I missed something here? I mean, I am slowing falling to sleep here waiting for some action.

Well you guys may wish to shoot off about this bid or that, but I've twigged on that you're barking up the wrong tree and that could be the root of all our problems. I could go on...

Now that's a prospect I would find very exciting to say the least. Hope there's some legs in it.

I wouldn't be so certain Duncan. It would appear that just two bids are being considered now and one seems to be the Marc Jackson associated bid. That surely means it has some form of credibility? :confused: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=12984

As it says on the tin...according to this article, Fry is not entertaining any more bid offers beyond the Matty bid and the other one (assuming Marc Jackson bid). Either the other bids mentioned are pants or the two main bids are very good? :confused: http://www.fansonline.net/southampton/article.php?id=658

How strange - I happen to agree with much of NC's post here. I need to go lie down in a darkened room I think.