Legod Third Coming

I don't disagree DD, but I think fans only ever play a part when things are not going well or when they feel they are not being treated honestly by those who run the club. And to be fair, we are no better or worse than fans of any other club.

DD, your view is welcome, just don't tell lies like Sundance. At the Donny game, the lads were roared off the park at half time after an entertaining 45 minutes in which we did everything but score. Then within one minute of the restart we had let a bloke waltz through and pass to a bloke in an offside position who scored. The fans went mad, only when the manager took off our midfield and wen to a formation not a single player understood. It was obvious for all to see that he had totally lost the plot and the fans - quite rightly - went beserk at 2-0 down to a team who before the game were 2nd bottom of the league, had not won away and had only scored something like 6 goals away all fecking season. Only THEN, with fans fighting, did the players react and score a goal!!! To therefore blame the fans on the basis of that game is a nonsense.

Even if we win the next two games, I think we're unlikely to be out of the drop zone and that is a massive blow pyschologically, that's my main worry. We haven't won back-to-back games all season.

In the director's box along with the other representatives of Lowe and Wilde's Public Relations' team is my guess.

genuinely think we can stay up? Looking at today's table and our goal difference, for the first time in my supporting life I have no hope that we can survive this season. I'm not even that upset by it, I don't think. In years gone I would have hoped until the last kick of the last game, like last season. But now, I just don't see where a win is coming from. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if we didn't win another game this season - really I wouldn't. Someone please tell me I'm wrong?

Total cobblers. The chanting all through the first half revolved around cheering on the team. Immediately after the break they went 1-0 up without a Saints fan uttering a word. You sir are a liar, charlatan and clearly on the Rupert Lowe payroll. Pack up now you pathetic little man unless you have something honest and constructive to contribute. Opnions are welcome, you're just a downright liar.

Regardless of formation though, we have to move the ball quicker and more forward. We don't attack in numbers so suddenly Holmes will get the ball in an advanced position, look up and find no-one to hit. So he turns, and all the pace goes out of the attack. I wonder how much of this is: formation fitness confidence ability. But I want to see us attack wide, at pace and stick men in the box and introduce a fine system if you pass the ball backwards while we're attacking, unless you spread play!!

For me, this league has always been set up for the classic Xmas tree formation with either wingbacks or genuine wingers. 90% of goalies in the league are poor. We never, ever get to the byeline and belt the ball across the goalmouth to simply see what happens. Even Kelvin doesn't deal with crosses well. I would like to see us play with a lone striker, man in the hole BUT two wingers - proper - asked to play wide and stay wide.

I am sick and tired of moronic posters on here blaming fans in any way for results on the pitch. I do not and never have and never will condone abuse of our players during a game - on here I couldn't really care less. However, if the team were achieving any kind of level of competence, the fans would be delighted and cheering to their hearts content every week. Throughout this season the support has been quieter than if we were flying high, of course - there are only 14,000 of us for a bloody start!!! And fans simply expect to get kicked in the nuts. How enthusiastic are we supposed to be exactly? We have played some of our best football when there has been no noise in the crowd, and played appallingly when the fans have been standing on chairs supporting. The very fact we can win when we have 400 people at Preston, and play like a shower of chit against United with a full house puts this theory to bed. Against Donny we played our best football when the fans were bloody well rioting!!! The mood of fans reflects what goes on during the game, not vice versa. Otherwise, formations, players, manager, fitness and competence are all irrelevant and we might as well just spend the money on some drums and trumpets. When ALL ELSE IS RIGHT - fans can be a 12th man. But I could cheer all day and still Lloyd James would commit himself early, McGoldrick would miss a sitter and Wotte would play a formation more alien to me than a man who lives on the third moon of Saturn...

The two are not mutually exclusive. The Dutch are arrogant, ask the Germans...

Not being funny but I would much rather someone reliable saw Rupert going into the excutive loo at SMS with a luger... What with Wotte's war analogy and now saluting the board, I'm actually quite hopeful that operation Valkury could wipe out our board this time around... Hiel Lowe. Ja.

Add her pension and the benefit of six weeks holiday though... I agree, but the point I am making is that a £50k a year footballer should be expected to be 100 times worse than a bloke who earns 100 times his salary! We pay peanuts but some fans expect Pele to turn out every game alongside Maradonna with Stevie Gerrard in the hole!! Like I said above, shout all you want at Ryan Smith, but it's like shouting at a Robin Reliant and expecting it to become a Ferrari. Some of our footballers are not very good, shouting at them won't improve them.

Peanuts and monkeys. Lowe cannot accept that the clubs with the highest wages win everything. I see no reason to shout and swear at players like Lloyd James because that's as good as he currently is. I might as well swear at my motor for not going faster or my missus for not being ten years younger. It's total nonsense. Conversely, if Skacel strolls about he deserves a verbal kick up the jacksie.

I seem to remember Steve Foster getting Ray sent off against Luton in the cup - stamped on his heel and Ray reacted. Never did like him - Foster not Ray.

I saw a car crash into another today. If only they hadn't intended to crash I thought, then there would be no need for all this snow...

Someone like Ryan Smith might be on £40-50k a year, about the same as a decent teacher these days. Frank Lampard is on £130k per week. Joe Cole £90k a week. So you should expect Smith to be about 50 -100 times worse than Frank Lampard ad Joe Cole. And he is. So no point giving him stick is there when he can't do what Joe Cole can. If Saganowski has a shocker fair enough. Lancashire? Smith? Spiderman? Lallana... they are still learning and when people learn they tend to make mistakes.

Tbh, some of my best mates are Charlton fans and we started our planning last week... Leeds to see the brother in law, Carlisle to go and see an old client, Southend to see old pink banana and spongebob!!! Cheer up lads, worse things happen at sea.

Lower your horizons...

They were given contracts by Lowe to make up for the fact we had no professionals on our books. In other times I would agree with you, but genuinely we have taken some young lads and thrown them to the Lions. It's not ferking right and it does my head in. It could ruin their careers. And they'll be lucky to be paid the same as a half-decent teacher. My cleaners would also kick your head in. I don't offer people scraps in my office without knowing I've got a mathematical advantage pal!

lmao.

Great, opinions so priceless you won't even pay to voice them. Doesn't Rupert pick up the tab for expense any more... So you're prepared to give Wotte time. See you at Carlisle.

I think Professional footballers should be given stick where it's warranted. But not apprentices. There is a massive difference. If you came into my office and told me I was bollock awful at my job, I would fecking well show you right and it wouldn't affect me in the slightest. If you came in an said the same to one of my juniors, I would kick your head in.

Hey, I didn't pick the team for the first half of the season. Lallana had played about four first team games and probably not even a full one before this season. This is his first season in first team football - he'll never have played so many games in his life. Those who slate him are myopic. When Rooney acored that goal against Arsenal, do you know wher he started the next game? On the bench. And he hardly played a full game all season. THAT is how you BLOOD youngsters. The players we played regularly at the start of the season should never have been in the first team every game. If they were ready, then you introduce them gradually, not chuck 'em in and expect to win with them. Because they play and don't cut it, that is no reason to berate them. Lloyd James is still LEARNING. Footballers do not start one season as a finished article. That's another reason you introduce them gradually over a year or two, unless they are exceptional. I mean, even Walcott doesn't start every game. And there's no better manager in the world at improving kids.

Cobblers is all I can say to that. This web-site is a tiny section of the fans and what you saw from the stands was even support for Poortvleit until it became obvious he and his system was failing. Every manager will attract derision and support in equal measure until he has proven himself. I was totally against WGS because his only career was relegating Coventry. Three months later he had proven his worth. And I was 100% delighted to be proved wrong. EVERY fan is delighted to be proven wrong about managers and players they don't rate. Because Alpine Saint was against Burley from the start does not mean the vast majority were. Nor were those in the ground anti Wigley or Sturrock. Again, you confuse a vocal minority with the 32,000 who were turning up. You have reshaped history to suit your own petty argument in support of the clown running the club. Give Wotte time??? He's had all season. How much lower do you think we should go before you wise up?