rallyboy

Is it fair to assume that Andy Awford has never been to a proper ground and doesn't own a television? That claim is bonkers-delusional, even by rabid frothing-at-the-mouth Portsea standards. The timing is rather unfortunate too - anyone want to tell Liverpool that Anfield on a Champions' League night is nowhere near as good as a half-packed fortress fatpipes for the visit of Dagenham and Redbridge?

Nottingham may well be the so-called choice of the handful of judges but the people's choice will be pompey, every day of the week. This minor setback is not a defeat, it's a victory for passion that demonstrates once again that the bestest are right up there with the elite of the world game. In many ways, pompey are the real winners here.

My Dad died of cancer a few years ago and it dawned on me at halftime that he was never a great fan of Franny - but he definitely would have been today. What a great achievement, what a top bloke - what a fantastic day to be a Saints fan.

I think a lot of people will be donating today. What an achievement though, and what a top bloke. Good to see the chairman is joining him for part of it, that is a nice touch when you think of Franny v the chairman in years past. He's coming home, he's coming home! ps are we allowed to abuse people who ignore him and go for a crap pie instead, or is that unsaintly?

anyone who saw her go off the top board knows that she can clear a pool of water quicker than any pumps that they have.

It just seems odd that after describing his evidence as contradictory and unreliable, the Judge has still accepted his version of events as the truth, on EVERY count. To the layman it appears that he has won every 50:50 decision in the trial, and several that were 25:75 against. Maybe he's just a lucky man. PS anyone else got a forum stalker who likes to follow them around all threads disagreeing with everything? Not seem him yet today, he'll be here in a minute....

And cleared of possession of ammunition....that he had in his possession. Add in the judge saying that the accused wasn't to know that he might kill someone if he emptied four rounds into the small room that they were in, and despite the guilty verdict this morning as expected, some might observe that the whole thing has not been a great advert for what most reasonable people might regard as justice.

My immediate thought was it's OJ all over again, but when you look at the detail.... The prosecution has failed to prove his intent. Personally I suspect he did it intentionally, but only the two of them know - there is no proof. So that judgement is probably a fair ruling with the evidence. If however he is cleared of the other charges then there is a big question mark over the whole thing. I expect him to be found guilty on the other charges and jailed, hopefully for a long enough term so that most reasonable people think that some justice has been served.

I bet the person who really owns it doesn't consider it complex at all. Here's the paperwork, there's the deeds. The End. And I'll bet a quid that it's not AllNewPFC2013.org or whatever they call themselves.

Gingeletiss is right to be amused, the current business has no legal claim prior to 2013. The trust claimed connections to previous businesses, legally challenged, and lost. It's now official, their glorious history goes all the way back to spring last year. So they are doing pretty well for newbie minnows thrown in the with the big boys like Fleetwood and Morecambe.

That's not fair, it was pompey who sold him and a contract is a contract - they deserve the cash to pay dividends to their many shareholders. It's as if the authorities have got it in for them, making them pay off a tiny percentage of debt from one of their many administrations, instead of letting them splash out on Lidl bubbly. It's a blow, half a million quid goes a long way in League Two, even though they are debt-free. Never mind.

Valid point about who calls the 'challenge'.... Incident occurs, players kick up fuss, play continues. Ref carries on reffing the game but asks 4th official if something happened that he missed for whatever reason, it may even be a specific question as in Rugby League - 'did no.5 get the ball?'.... 20 secs later he gets info and makes decision. The players and crowd know it may well be being reviewed and will feel some further justice is being determined, even if original decision stands. This means that the refereeing team retains power and control, no manager can halt the game for any reason. It might reduce the number of ridiculous mistakes that have crept in - that and a bit of consistency and explanation would go a long way. It's a difficult job and no one is perfect, but some of the mistakes we see are not the work of professionals who have been trained correctly. Any help that can be given to them should be. At the moment they are being hung out to dry, and they can't even explain why they made a decision, sharper fans will note that he was unsighted or it was a very tight call, others will just vilify. There is no simple answer, but we certainly don't want a complicated one. Leave power with the ref, and give him more tools.

Am I the only one what think's that Awford should not of bin either our English teacher nor the manager neither? Sort em out Mack, they has gone all feral again and need your grammar input. Is she about?

I don't see any reason for the few to panic, they've just been to one of the bigger clubs in the division and they did put up a plucky fight. Their time will come, they'll get a glorious giantkilling three points at somewhere like Morecambe or Shrewsbury, and then we'll look silly for mocking how smalltime they've become.

Putting aside obvious stumbling blocks, strengthening from last year by retaining most players but also bringing in the new ones would have been an expensive exercise. With our recent history I would have been nervous had we spent that sort of money with no attempt to balance the books. We clearly overspent on Osvaldo, perhaps on Ramirez, you don't need too many of those mistakes before the balance sheets goes a bit storrie. I'd love us to be able to finish as high as possible but it has to be through sensible spending. Call me safe or risk-averse but I don't want us trying to compete in the transfer market with Chelsea or Man City. I'd rather we punched above our weight in 6th-8th, unlike Liverpool who believe they can win the title, or Spurs who think they can finish in the top four. IMO they are both weighed down by delusion and thus doomed to underachievement. I'm happy that we are gently cautious and have made a profit on summer business, I don't wish to play Dagenham, pompey or Rochdale again anytime soon, other than in the preliminary rounds of a cup competition. With every year that we retain our status and build well, the gulf between the Premier League and the Championship widens. We are in a good place.

If United value Shaw at £31M and have just paid about £60M for the other dude then we'll have £45M for Morgan ta. Barring that, they can sod off and compete for sixth with the rest of us. If we have no further exits today (all the best Jos) and the performances continue to improve, then personally I think we can judge the summer business to be a slightly fraught but heavily-disguised success. : For everyone apart from the owner... If that really was her best attempt at a meltdown-inspired asset-stripping firesale, then I'm afraid she doesn't know what she's doing.

I've been told that Newport kicked pompey off the park and the ref let them get away with it.....also I heard that pompey spent too much time diving and the ref was a homer. Was it somewhere in between perhaps?

I await The9 telling us of his day out....how was it? Okay-ish?

Nice.

As we're between administrations and Indiana Jones is still out there somewhere in a tomb or jungle trying to locate the missing 12th month of the accounts, there is time to ponder Tesco's strategy and guess at the next move... Everything would point toward them shelving this sort of development at the moment. Presumably they have a deal with Robinson so he might get some compensation if they u-turn, I guess he has another agreement with pompey if the development completes. If it doesn't he is left with land to sell and pompey don't get their all seater 50,000 stadium/hardstanding for a burger van. The land only has value if a buyer is out there so it could even return to wasteland for a while, or Robinson might even see it as his opportunity to move on? His motivation has always been the Tesco deal - and of course his love of the club. His shares could be bought by a another begathon, but I don't think they could muster the millions he would need which would turn him directly into a greedy villain. They might even find themselves in the rare situation where someone controls the club for personal gain, and they want them out... I do hope pompey haven't spent the Tesco money already on their plan to return speedily to the midtable Championship position that is rightly theirs. But if the store does go ahead then the Fortress of Fat is landlocked for a generation, so I see win-win - though a Tesco pull-out would give more laughs, a dash of panic, and might allow our favourite Toyboy to step in and negotiate his fabled £20M fee from the city council.

The England set-up and selection policy has left the national team back in the dark ages. We will never win the World Cup again. There, I've said it, the elephant in the room has been introduced to everyone - sorry if that was a bombshell to anyone. The last eight years should have been the clue.

Come on hurry along, big page coming up. And when we get to 1976 May I be the first to shoehorn the date into a sentence for no reason. I'll be curious to see how that colour experiment went, I fear it will look a bit scary...

Too late, I've moved on - I'm off to the main board to seek out as many threads as possible that don't interest me, and then to comment in the strongest possible terms on subjects of which I have no knowledge whatsoever. To fit in I shall also be suggesting that Rickie is a greedy Judas who should be booed at every opportunity and removed from the website - and that we should employ Glenn Hoddle without delay or I shall never go to any sort of sporting event ever again. Yeah, that's right, we have normal views for normal people over there, unlike you saddo nutjob freaks on here still banging on about the mafia and criminality and unpaid debt, all from a club whose supporters heap filthy abuse on Saints on a daily basis. I can't see why you people find their little blip so entertaining. It's not like they came to our ground and abused a dead man's memory. What is so funny about their hard-earned season ticket money being used to pay a bloke to drive their manager to an industrial estate brothel? And three relegations in quick succession is no laughing matter, you are just jealous. Their supporters have done a fantastic job and deserve our praise, while we have to suffer asset-stripping and firesales, pretty soon they will have a 48% share in a length of fence.* So leave it, and get on the main board with normal people. *there are no shares, they are donations!!!

okay, will do, thanks everyone, bye.

sorry Lord T, you forget, we did just the same... We left loads of debts, we didn't pay our CVA, our half-empty ground St Fairies, in Little Delhi, is owned by the council, while the meagre attendances are propped up by free tickets to asylum seekers. We owe £35M to an offshore loan shark, and our owner, the daughter of an SS tank commander, has asset-stripped the company bare and is desperate to firesell during the current meltdown, before we plummet to non-league. Apparently. And at this time when the role of the Nutjob in modern society is being debated, when you have to put up with being told these things on a weekly basis despite pompey walking away from criminal charges, massive debts and financial irregularities unpunished, you don't ask for threads to be locked, you stick Dr Marten right in and joyfully harvest every last laugh from their hilariously predictable and crushing demise. Is there anyone who was at Fortress Fatpipes for the 4-1 defeat who suffered the accompanying ridicule and think it's time to be nice to them yet? For each one of them, I'll show you a pompey fan who feels the cup was illegal, didn't celebrate, and refuses to accept it.