EastleighSoulBoy

Probably the use of offensive would be right in light of yours and MOG's comments. Kadeem, I was beginning to have concerns like yours. I don't think he's thick though. Maybe just seeking to argue from a different point.

Sweeping generalisation #459494 Hark, as in Harken. Listen.

The above is a sort of contrived statement that someone, knowing their argument is flawed, would use to drag others into the cess pool of their own mind. So, was the comment below not really a question but more like a statement? I don't think that those arguing against racism will claim to have never made a racist comment or told a racist joke. It's just that they have made a conscious decision to try and learn about other races, to try and understand other races. Rather than succumb to a frightened, xenophobic, knee-jerk reaction.

Then please aquaint us, in your opinion, as to who is? Because both sides of the argument believe that they are correct, otherwise there would be no difference of opinion? Or, are one side of the argument knowingly in the wrong?

If that were the case then those of us seeking equality for all races would surely be wasting our time? It's a matter of education, as has been previously mentioned in this thread. I admire your attempt at cynical humour though. Only one question mark needed by the way.

Were they taken with it?

I think that we are all probably guilty of this, due to our youth at the time? But we grew up?

Indeed, just leaves me wondering what players will be brought in as we improve and climb the divisions.

Tell them about the Transit very near getting turned over, with the lad with the broken arm still inside.

Thanks for the Pix. Looks like a nice warm sunny day. Last time I was there it was a typical dour, cold and wet day.

As a disenfranchised Labour Voter I have not gone to the right, neither have I leant even more to the left to be honest. I'd like my party back as it was (cue howls of protest) rather than it being a left leaning Liberal/Tory amalgamation. I'm surprised to learn that some Labour Voters have joined the BNP and I do wonder how much they were committed to socialism initially. Probably very p155ed with Labour to be honest?

Are you sure that the 'leggy blonde' wasn't just Peter Crouch dropping in to see his old mates?

Don't beat about the bush, just tell us your opinion!

Precisely, and more concisely, the point I have been trying to make! But it's easier to pick on and beat up perceived terrorists than it is to try to sit down and talk to each other! As stressed earlier. education is the way forward. Empowerment through education.

Good to see the team fighting till the end. Sometimes it just pays off. Well done Saints.

I remember that 3-0 win in our relegation year. The 'old' boys were stood there, transistor radios to their ears waiting for the Birmingham result. As their tears started to flow there was no need to tell us younger lads what had happened.

Those links make astounding reading! Must admit I need to study the pdf file in more detail but it's enough to make you realise how bad things are.

3 points today will be well worth drinking to!

Evel Knievel type jump from Southampton Pier?

Nice in a cheese sandwich.

Could things get any worse down there? I'm really lost as to why the bestest team/ground/supporters in the world are the subject of much hilarity from a bunch of Pony Fiddlers on minus 2 points and two divisions below them.

Thanks Mr Crabby, kind of reinforces our new found, but careful, optimism. Will you and Pilchards be meeting Squidward for a crabby patty later? (Just realised I watch waaay tooo much kids TV!)

Nicely said, sounds like your position has a decent level of job satisfaction. Breaking down barriers, through education and dialogue. I'm not daft enough to think that suspicion and even xenophobia doesn't exist on both sides of the divide. If only we can explain to all that we do not have to compromise our beliefs to peacefully co-exist. Education about each other is the way forward.

Salient points. Education, but not just the young disenfranchised, Pakistani people. Our own people are feeling disenfranchised. It's that very situation that enables the radicalisation of minds. By extreme white, extreme black, extreme anything. It's what they feed on. Employment, the average young person is not an entrepreneur so is unlikely to go out and start a business. Give them jobs that make them feel worthwhile. That they have a goal to reach, both in work and their home life. Enable them to realise their potential to make a worthwhile contribution to society. Firstly though they need a society that they feel is worth contributing to, that if for them society is not all it's cracked up to be that they have the empowerment to change that fabric of society. Not neccesarily to rip it up and make us an Islamic Society but to make a society where we can all peacefully co-exist. This can happen, probably not in my children's life span but somewhen. I know it's a little Utopian but hey, it's better than a total breakdown!

So, the extremists enemy (no matter how extreme he is) is my friend. Quaint American style thinking which helped arm Iraq. And we all now reap the harvest of that skewed logic. So, by that logic, are you willing to empower a racist group, through it's alignment with EDL? Because as sure as eggs are eggs the BNP (as the Americans championed) will, if at all possible, use whatever means to strike at Muslims. Don't go thinking that the BNP will be carefully checking any coloured person's credentials to see if they are a Muslim Terrorist or not before they beat ten bales out of them. The BNP don't need to check, all those non whites are terrorists! If so then consider this possible scenario. That, if the Muslim terrorist question gets put to bed, what are you going to do to quell the anger of other groups who have chosen terrorism because they have been forced to by the actions of a strengthened BNP/EDL? Maybe there will be no other terror groups because the BNP/EDL may have 'had a chat with them'? Ahh! what about those English who were dragged in to it because they were sickened by the actions of the BNP/EDL? Yes! a civil war? Your enemy's enemy whilst once a friend is now your enemy and could well have been rampaging across 'his' country. Yes 'his' country, it's no longer yours because you gave him the power to take it. Just possible. I'll offer my apology now for maybe getting you wrong, but I do think you are placing your hopes in the wrong place and leaving yourself open to suspicion.