EastleighSoulBoy

I like the ironic use of the term hysterical tarts.

That report was totally unchanged by me as it was cut and pasted.

That wouldn't surprise me if there is any truth in there being acrimony between him and NC. When I found that my boss had lied to me I looked for other work, as most would! If any of these conspiracy theories are true then the club need to come out and be transparent about it. Something which we all suffered from when the club lacked it in recent years. The rumours need to be put to bed or confirmed.

From Saintslist, and only a rumour. Posted there at 17.55.

Or 'That mob along the coast' http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A67884899 I thought the only 'mobsters' on the South Coast resided in the PO postcode area!

Agree, we have no real say in the matter, I just hope that there is no meat to any of these conspiracy theories and that AP stays.

Just spoke to ned and nobody ran at him. :cool:

My source also! :confused:

Anybody at the ground? I'm hearing a strange rumour and need to know if there are any programmes available. Sciatica ruling me out, on all sorts of fairy potions to control the pain so I cannot attend.

Works for each party then.

Maybe so, it might also be interesting to see if the company voiced their concerns about the amount of time he spent on Union business. Then again it might, just might, be the fact that they didn't want him doing union business within working time especially if it concerned their current dispute. Hence my previous use of the phrase 'decent employer'. Given that all the union offerings at the table were basically ignored. Who really knows? Probably only the Union and the management and each will have their spin on it. * EDIT* I presume that the employer followed the correct disciplinary procedures which led up to Duncan's dismissal? Some have been known to 'forget' exactly where they were in that procedure and 'inadvertently' jump a few steps!

I have always been given to understand that a decent employer will give a duly elected shop steward reasonable time, within working hours, to perform union work. In practice I have even found that most decent employers will give the union officials access to a PC with e-mail etc. When the company works with the union most issues, from either side, get sorted amicably and effectively. It's generally the hot heads, from either side, who cause the problems and it's normally the steward who keeps his ones in check!

Was it not discovered that there were anomalies with the count? Ex employees being issued with ballot papers etc? Definitely a disgrace that no control of membership was exercised. Who ran the ballot? Certainly when we balloted (1990 Electricians @ Ford) it was run by the Electoral Reform Society. What I was saying was that FF did not make the members strike. Irrespective of how rightly, or wrongly, the ballot was conducted. The members, and sadly some interlopers, voted.

FF did not make the decision to strike. The members voted on it, as required to by law, and followed all the legal procedures in giving notice of that ballot result.

Read it again. I mentioned Duncan doing a steward's job of looking after his members, not the strike. Duncan was victimised, in my opinion, for doing his union work. If he had been guilty of gross misconduct it might well have been deserved but he wasn't. FF has not damaged BA. The management of BA want to steamroller through with changes, rather than change by consultation. The union made many concessionary proposals to save money. But the management, being bullish, have decided to fight the unions rather than negotiate in an effort to totally eradicate them.

I think it's more a case of people being happy that the Fascist dream/spin ls being seen through, in some places, at long last.

Agreed, let's not worry about the other teams. Let them worry about us. I really want us to come flying out of the traps next season.

Yup, my hopes entirely. Hence the fine, doubling the debt and taking them into +25% of debt value territory.

You're wasting your time BTF. These right wingers have principles which is OK but the minute someone, or a Union, sticks to their principles and it affects them then they want to deny anyone else that right. Total waste of time. They can't understand that Duncan was so principled, and doing a stalwart job in defending and caring for his members that he lost his job through victimisation. Imagine Stu or Stan shouting the odds for their mates, until the boss threatens dismissal. 'That's it boys, you're on your own, I have no principles' The flow of obsequiousness would not abate! http://www.wordreference.com/definition/obsequiousness People forget about the Tolpuddle Martyrs and what they started. Ok, so some union activity (particularly the 70's) was OTT but Unions are not always about that!

General - Lib/Dem - Tactical. Proud of turning a 534 vote margin into some 4,000+. Local - Labour

I reckon we are going to stagger about like a drunken wino until some of those on the gravy train wake up and pull the communication chain and shout 'all change!'.

I believe that you are Stanley. You may (?) have changed, in some way, or moderated your views. Why you have changed or moderated them I don't know. It may be that you have thought long and hard about them, it may be that the views you held were instrumental in your being banned from here so you cannot further voice them? As to the ban, which I believe was for ever/life (and the mod who banned you can correct any misapprehensions I have), that is the reason you cannot be honest with me as to your previous identity. I do not recall painting or describing you as a Nazi who wants to run the gas chambers! Here is what I said to you, 20/04/2010, in the PM about Stanley and my 'grassing him up' In it I don't seem to see anything about my not liking being called a grass. Although I did describe him as getting very nasty. It was all contrived to try and draw the truth, that you are Stanley, from you. Quote "I clearly did not state that you are Fascist, whereas Stanley clearly was and also a racist to boot. I could see your reasoned debate which is in total contradiction to Stanley's. I still have his PM to me in which he basically admitted his racism and, after I forwarded it to the Mods he called me a grass. I suppose the poor little twit was right in that I grassed him up, but he was so nasty! Sorry that you thought I was inferring that you are! Although you are obviously far too right wing for me and I, probably, far too left wing to you!" I see that I have 3 messages, I fully expect one might be from you but I cannot take time to read it at this moment. I shall. So it's looking like a hung Parliament, will we get a government of concensus or will we stagger about for a few months until the next election?

You should really be a politician. Weasel words hiding from and evading an honest answer. I really must go to work. Enjoy your day.

Stanley/You started the exchange of PM's in that instance. How do you know about them? All your PM's to me are stored and if I feel necessary will be referred to and I am willing to share them with any Mod in an open effort to rid this forum of any racists. Leopards don't change their spots, they seek to flatter and deceive but it doesn't always work.

Don't feel sorry for me just because my Mother has Cancer. That's patronising. You don't like me it's just that your current facade prevents you from revealing that. Now act like you claim to be, honest. No weasel words. Straight yes or no. Are you, as I suspect, Stanley? Or can you not be honest, thereby revealing true core right wing values? I'm off to work.