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Trying to be serious for a mo, how could anyone vaguely connected with the club think it is a good idea to jet off abroad for pre-season training (ignoring the 'squad' situation) when they could and should arrange friendlies at home that would incur far less cost, at a time when minimising their costs should be number 1 priority. Is there ANY rational explanation for this?

P.S. They've raised over £10,000 for http://www.chicks.org.uk so far.

At the risk of repeating myself from t'other thread, there IS a torch relay that is running it the entire way: http://www.endurancelife.com/realrelay/ An old SF poster prideofthesouth (not seen him post for ages now) is running a leg tonight in fact, and two other mates of mine ran legs in the last few days.

Gallery: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Gallery/0,,10280~2850915,00.html

Arron came through the Academy.

Nige said they would be bringing in a goalkeeper. There's nowt any of us can do in the mean time, so I really wouldn't worry your pretty little head about it Alps. Life is too short. There are more important things to worry about in life.

That was 3-1.

Because frisking people is too taxing for you...? Nah, because he's on O2.

The above Real Relay is coming through Winchester tomorrow... worth a bump and a sponsor if you feel so inclined?

That was my next question... What is the next key date?

A two-part reply: 1 - From the heart: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... 2 - From the head: So, let me get this straight, and stated relatively simply... To play in L1 next season (still not in itself confirmed) Pompey must: - Pay up (or otherwise mutually agree an outcome) all football debts - Settle, or get rid of, any other secured debt (this seemed a bit woolly... some is allowed?) - Submit to 5 years of Football League imposed financial sanctions Does that sum it up? Irrespective of it being Pompey, this is about as good a response as I could've hoped for, for the integrity of the League and setting an example. Well done FL.

As I said, I actually agree that it shouldn't be compulsory. However, I do think that if producers do label their food, it should be done using a independently agreed and consistently applied standard. When I suggested you were being silly, I meant your assertion that labelling automatically = more cost and more packaging, which is simply not true. I know this because I deal with small, local producers on a regular basis. I completely agree about the excesses of packaging, but IMO, adding additional information need not mean MORE packaging if done intelligently. It can be added to existing packaging. If you look at most labelling that is used in proprietary schemes, it is simply added in to the design. Personal experience would suggest there are lazy people, stupid people, people that don't care, and a mixture of two or even all three!

Similarly, always lol when people say 'Why are we looking at X position, when we need someone in position Y?' Well, I *say* I always lol, but actually it gets tedious after not very long...

I was trying not to go there...

The issue is G4's failure to deliver... I think most people recognise that there is a need for security, and that if need be, the forces will step in. But it shouldn't have been necessary. A private company has f*cked up basically, and has had to be 'bailed out'.

I think you're being a bit silly there... I don't actually think it should be compulsory either... in actual fact, those companies who are trying to avoid this kind of thing are, very generally speaking, those who have something to hide, so it makes it easier to make my own mind up. As for more packaging, erm, no... this is simply something which would need to be incorporated into the existing design or the existing packaging. Nothing extra. There are actually a lot of genuinely good reasons for better informing people of what they are eating... it all comes back to your original point. People are stupid. Whether they take note or not is up to them, but there are good reasons for including more information on food packaging IMO, and I don't see it as a handicap at all, and neither do a lot of the producers I deal with in my job. They want to show off their products and how good they are.

A lot of people are stupid, I agree, and a lot of people don't care. But there are many who are not stupid and who do care and would appreciate a consistent, independently devised scheme. They aren't telling you what to eat, just telling you what you would be eating if you ate that product.

None of the 'hype' is ever the players fault. It's always created by a combination of media snippets and over-enthusiastic, Football Manager-playing, Youtubed-up fans... Nowt wrong with a bit of excitement over a new signing but sometimes it gets a bit OTT. But that in turn provides me with a lol at threads like this, so it's not all bad.

There was one other fairly significant deal that almost didn't happen, because of some to-ing and fro-ing, with a few public statements not helping, but we still got our man... Nigel Adkins himself. I reckon if we really want the player, we'll sign him.

The non-politicians generally make or break Panorama IMO... I've really enjoyed watching people like Tony Robinson and Marcus Brigstocke put across some great points and provide some top debate. The media can be a bit hit or miss, but then it depends on their paper and their level of blinkeredness.

And another win last night thanks to D/L, pretty comfortable in the end! Nice to get KP out first ball too...

So, the torch nears the South Coast... anyone starting to care? Now, THIS is what you call an Olympic Torch relay. A Real Relay if you will: http://www.endurancelife.com/realrelay/ Got two friends taking part (one big Saints fan)... raising money for a good cause on the way too. No Coca-Cola or other company executives taking part in THIS one.

Thanks for that, saves me trawling...! It'll do nicely.

I love it. The comments on this thread that is. Who would've known some coloured fabric could arouse such emotions. I quite like both kits too btw, not that it matters.

There's only one way I could see him 'marking' anyone else on a football pitch, and I really don't want to suggest it...