Lighthouse

He’s trying to wind people up. Trousers has a theory that Boxing Day isn’t on the 26th December.

What you’d call it is not an argument to anything I’ve posted. I still stand by everything in my previous posts.

I haven’t swerved it. It happens because people are teaching their children what they were lead to believe, which going by your two options is a religion, not merely the belief in a god. A belief in Hell isn’t some extremist, cultist idea belong to a few whackos in Mississippi, it’s fairly mainstream and not just in Christianity. Religious belief and teaching is what I take issue with, not those who simply believe in a god (or several). It’s perfectly possible to believe in a god but not religion, I used to think exactly that myself. I basically went from being an agnostic theist to an agnostic atheist. I don’t think I’ve ever denied that on this thread (if I did it’s through my own poor wording more than anything else) The people who still believe something similar I take no issue with as it’s generally harmless and there no religious teaching associated with it.

Any religion which teaches children that they will go to Hell, or some variation thereof. It’s not intentional as it’s mostly just parents passing on what they’ve been raised to believe from their parents etc. However it is morally, IMO, appalling and it’s not just a cult/extremist problem, this is a mainline issue.

If someone derives comfort from the idea of a man in the sky watching over them and that when they die they will be happily reunited with Grandma, Uncle Ray and all their childhood guinea pigs, I don’t have a problem with that. If people want to pray for help, that’s none of my business. I don’t have a problem with belief as such, if it is completely separate from organised religion. The problem is it never is. If you’re telling a child they will go to hell if they commit various sins or don’t say their prayers, that is very much not, "to each their own." That’s child abuse, plain and simple.

Any atheist could be persuaded if presented with credible evidence but no such thing has ever been put forward. It would have to be something well beyond the boundaries of known science for me. For example a giant bearded man appearing in the sky and giving me clear instructions on Christianity. Even then, I’d be sceptical. I’d be asking other people living nearby if they’d seen the same, seeking a medical checkup, MRI scan and blood tests etc. To make sure it was real.

I really don’t think any of the CBs we’ve watched this season ave been anything other than average. As well as we ended the season, JB and JS are both prone to the odd clanger, ball watching and some bizarre positional choices at times. CB is our weakest position and I wouldn’t shed a tear over any of them leaving.

That’s nice.

Hypothetically, I’d probably take £15m for MO but ten seems a bit on the low side these days.

I guess if you’re going to leave early, they’re not wrong.

Frasier was good but I wouldn’t name a school after him, personally.

Perhaps it was all planned as part of a phased changeover. If you wash the shirt a second time you get an advert for ‘shots for £1’ in Orange Rooms.

No surprise about the top spot, that game is mental.

Almost feels like it’s worth £15m to get that stupid company off our shirts.

Fuck Mini Babybell.

I don’t know if anyone else watches 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown but there was a comedian on last week who suffered from cerebral palsy. I don’t want to be cruel and I do admire her for not letting it stop her but it really was painfully awkward to watch.

I wouldn’t put it last them to break into one of those flats in St Mary’s, although knowing them they’d pick one facing west.

Fascinating. Since there’s no actual link or substance to this story, I suggest you take your love affair to the duck rape thread, or better yet PM.

Good news, it’ll ease the load on the NHS.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53770859 Am I being naive or is this genuinely good news?

What do we reckon, could these protests be the beginning of the end of ‘Europe’s last dictator’?

It would make sense. None of it really matters but if we’re being traditional: 2. KWP 3. Vokins 6. Salisu 8. Whoever’s replacing PEH. Possibly Smallbone or Reed. 11. Maybe N’Lundulu. We haven’t really got any first team attackers above #25. 13. Gunn maybe. 15. Bednarek maybe, or Salisu.

The point is that just because it’s not someone’s job, doesn’t mean they aren’t making valid, intelligent points.

No it isn’t, you’re right. However many of these humourous entertainers seem to make more coherent arguments than the religious crackpots they come up against. Was Rashford wrong about school dinners because he’s just a footballer?

There are plenty of pastors, imams and other religious leaders who are fantastic orators. However when I’ve seen them debating with the people I’ve mentioned, I’ve yet to see any of them come up with a convincing argument.