Maggie May

Then ban it outright. None of this “good faith” nonsense. There’s very little good faith in the game.

Spying is legal in England, too, just not 72 hours before a game.

Wow. Absolutely unhinged post.

Boro fans can’t help themselves. Why does it matter to that George caller so much? It’s because they know they will flop under Hellberg next season and they blew their biggest chance to go up.

It’s hilarious how obsessed the Boro fans are with us. They got what they wanted and still lost, but can’t seem to move on. I’m all for forgive and forget and I’m glad we’re big enough to do so with Tonda. Yeah, rules were broken, but it’s legal to “spy” on training, just not 72 hours before a game, which is what so many fans of other clubs keep forgetting or can’t comprehend. The entire football governance should ban it outright if it’s upsetting both fans and other clubs so much.

Oh good. I wasn’t listening to it carefully enough!

I want to believe FF but Simon Peach said this week there could be worse to come.

This is the opinion of someone who knows absolutely nothing about what’s going on within the club.

That’s good to hear coming from a pro. I hope the court of public opinion starts swaying in favour towards us soon, especially if Boro continue to whine on and on about it.

Yeah I very much doubt club laptops are going to be left around considering what’s just happened…

They are utterly obsessed.

I don’t think it’s that deep.

Sadly, I don’t think we have a choice. The FA will ban him. This is why there’s radio silence from the club.

Everything Steve said was spot on. “Spying” has to be a widespread practice and I don’t believe for a second we’re the only club to do it. It’s what I was saying various occasions on here before our expulsion.

Well, after the past few days, the club's really set the Barlow.

Boro fans are utterly obsessed with us. Hopefully they remember they have a game to play tomorrow.

Does anyone think there’s a possibility that Tonda’s analysed so many teams’ tactics over the past 14 years that he’s technically now a tactical mastermind?

@trousers you know I love a told you so post but you’re spot on asking this. At the weekend, I made a couple of posts suggesting this has to be more widespread. I refuse to believe we were naive to the rules. Again, I was shot down questioning the grey areas of the 72 hour ban and the reasons for Boro claiming to have more evidence from other clubs. We didn’t come up with this “genius” spying plan that’s ultimately got us the worst possible sanction. We’re bang to rights over the whole scenario but I’m interested to see what opens up as a result of this.

All I will say is we hired Nathan Jones a week after Villa hired Unai Emery. That sums up the past five years for me.

Oh well.

@Lord Duckhunter I have some humble pie for you. It was clear from the beginning we were in the sh*t big time. Every question I had surrounding the 72 hour ban and other teams had merit. Boro’s leaks suggesting there were other clubs we’d spied on had to be within the 72 hour period.

The oracle strikes again.

If these latest posts are to be believed, it means most of us don’t have a clue about this case against us. I asked about why Middlesbrough continued to push having evidence of other clubs coming forward, only to be shot down by rather arrogant posters saying we are only facing one charge of spying against Boro. Sounds like we’re f***ed.

Sack the sub-editor.

So why are there various reports of Boro suggesting so?