badgerx16

I'm looking forward to our 6 pointers against Fulham, WBA, and Sheff Utd.

After the final whistle to celebrate a Saints win.

The EU27, in response to Covid, came to a collective, and supposedly binding, agreement regarding the procurement of the vaccines. They chose to do this despite there being provision in EU statute to permit a member state to go it alone. If the UK had not departed, and had the pandemic still occurred, the UK would have had a simple and clear choice - make it's own provision or go with the collective. EU law in no way prohibits the former, ergo, Brexit had no bearing on the vaccine program. No matter how it is dressed up, this is the way of it.

Surely not, this is an option that only becomes available after leaving the bloc.

The assertion was made that if we had not left the EU then we would have been compelled to use the group procedure, and that therefore Brexit benefitted the UK by enabling us to do our own thing. This assertion is patently wrong. Whether we would have done our own thing had Brexit not happened is moot, but the legal option to do so would have been there.

Borough

What, Brexit ? Thank fuck for that !

NI gets it's vaccine through the NHS, not Eire, which has also said it is totally opposed to the EU decision.

Sorry Weston, but you are wrong; " The UK could have followed the same course of vaccine action if it were an EU member That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones. Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them." https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/covid-vaccine-decisions-brexit " Ahead of leaving the Single Market, the MHRA has been formally asked under emergency powers to rapidly decide on vaccines without waiting for the EMA as would usually be required. It is this that enabled the UK to approve the Pfizer vaccine before the EU or other countries. Contrary to some press reports, the legal basis for this has nothing to do with Brexit. It exists within the regulations implementing EU law." https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/news-item/brexit-and-the-coronavirus-vaccine

Jan 11th 1969 ; Saints 1 Coventry 0 ( Jimmy Gabriel )

If you are given that particular vaccine, when and how do you find out if you are in the 66% ?

There is 'Post Match Reaction' and there is obsession bordering on madness. GM should be bigging up the potential successes of Brexit, and the great opportunities that lay before us, ( if there are any ). Indeed, there have been several recent posts requesting that such plus points might be highlighted Instead he seems to be still digging up 'evidence' of the EU's failings, as if we were still deep in the pre-vote trenches. And he is completely missing the point that, with respect to sourcing and procuring the vaccines, Brexit, in fact, had zero effect on the UK's position.

You do remember that the referendum was over 4 years ago ? To paraphrase what Billy Joel sings in "Leningrad", "Haven't you heard you won the war ? What do you keep on fighting for ?" https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/obsessed

Looks like we have a new SWF based contagious disease - Duckyspeakitis. The first symptom is demonstrated above. Patients will quickly move on to stage 2, where the use of "chicks", "micks", ,"paddies", and "sweaties" will be observed. In the late stages, referring to one's "snap dragon" or "doris" will indicate that the sufferer has reached a terminal diagnosis.

Vaccine deliveries to the North of England are to be redirected to other areas that are lagging in their vaccination programs. You would think that each NHS region would have a reasonably accurate understanding of their local population size and demographics, and therefore how many doses they required.

Without Brexit London would still have been in the position of being the principal clearing house within the EU, rather than being in competition with NY.

Parallel

I think the point is that the UK Government has been bullish about the prospects of the financial services sector post-Brexit, whilst all along they would have known the possibility of the NY agreement was looming like the threat of the Tirpitz heading for PQ-17.

I did the usual thing of skipping to the end to see if the story was worth persisting with. TBH it wasn't. 😉

Does it matter ?

The PIP process is grossly mismanaged, from the client perspective, but I am sure it makes Capita's bosses a lot of money. I was asked to sit in on one assesment in support of the claimant - when she got the written report back it included answers to questions that had not been asked, and answers she had given were not correctly reported. The appeal went to Court, and lasted less than 3 minutes, long enough for the DSS to admit their "errors" and the claimant's payments retored to the previous level. The main bone of contention was that the process is geared to physical impairments rather than mental health. Asking somebody with Bulimia or Anorexia whether they are able to prepare food misses the point as to whether they are capable of eating correctly. Asking somebody with a history of self harm as to whether they know how to handle a knife borders on sheer bloody lunacy !

There are clues out there, even with everybody supposedly signed up to NDAs; https://www.businessinsider.com/cost-pfizer-astrazeneca-moderna-vaccine-eu-revealed-belgian-mp-2020-12?r=US&IR=T "For example, the EU appears to be paying 24% less for shots of the Pfizer vaccine compared with the US, the Guardian reported, citing analysis from Bernstein Research. The EU contributed significant funding to BioNTech, who developed the vaccine for Pfizer. Similarly, the US is paying $4 a dose for the vaccine produced by AstraZeneca and developed in Oxford, UK, while the EU will pay $2.18 (€1.78,) Bernstein said."

As, by your own admission, are you.

Monday

A US pharmacist has agreed to plead guilty to tampering with Covid vaccine vials because he believed the jabs could harm people, prosecutors say. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55821623