Heisenberg

You might have missed this? https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?48561-Cortese-has-left-Southampton-Football-Club-Officially-Confirmed#.W1Wy6KTTWaM #momentumcurve #decline #poormanagement

Either way the club has ****ed up. Bloated squad full of average players on top wages. Club is great at selling our star players, but we do stockpile crap

That's the repercussion of selling Tadic cheap and loaning out players rather than finding buyers. Having been net transfer spend winners for last 4 years however you'd expect some funds especially as Kat convinced us Gao was here to push us forward.

Saints "fans" will continue obsession(s) with past saints players Saints "fans" will continue obsession(s) with Liverpool, Everton and WHU Saints "fans" will continue obsession(s) with Puel, Silva and Mopo

After a 2 year break will we beat a top 6 side in the league again?

If we sign a new exciting striker and winger it could be a great season. If we don't (I expect we won't) it will be another bore fest featuring lots of defensive mistakes and what ifs

Possibly being better than Long and Carrillo is not a reason to give Gallagher a chance. Taking the cheap option (ala Stephens) cost us last season and if we haven't learnt our lessons then the management are more stupid than I thought

If we give Sam Gallagher a chance we will be OK.

Decent summary. I'm all for giving 'younger' players chances, but for me Sam had his chance on loan(s). He didn't excel at all in the lower league and he's 23 soon Would be frustrating to start the season with Austin, Sam, Long and Gabbi. Toothless would sum it up, we'd be asking for more trouble Put it another way, how would we feel if we'd signed Sam this summer from Birmingham? Underwhelming

We've been over rating "our own" for a long long time. Amazes me that some think v.average in the championship = potentially great in the Premier league.

Not true. He'd be out of contract now and leaving on a free.

Classic Les Reed ego signing. Nightmare

£20m smakeroonies more than Mane

Whatever floats your boat.

Ordered 80 shirts and all arrived today Cheers Batman

Antonio or Redmond?

We did well with the VVD sale but some of our sales have been poor and when we are dealing with the clubs outside the top 6 clubs we do seem to struggle. Tadic, Cork, Fonte, Jay Rod all under sold IMHO. Obviously the 30m guaranteed on Mane was a joke too

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Ángel Di María – Manchester United – 2014–15 Franco Di Santo – Chelsea, Blackburn Rovers, Wigan Athletic – 2008–13 Alejandro Faurlín – Queens Park Rangers – 2011–13, 2014–15 Federico Fazio – Tottenham Hotspur – 2014–15 Federico Fernández – Swansea City – 2014–18 Luciano Figueroa – Birmingham City – 2003–04 Mauro Formica – Blackburn Rovers – 2011–12 Esteban Fuertes – Derby County – 1999–2000 Ramiro Funes Mori – Everton – 2015–18 Paulo Gazzaniga – Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur – 2012–16, 2017–18 Jonás Gutiérrez – Newcastle United, Norwich City – 2008–09, 2010–15 Gabriel Heinze – Manchester United – 2004–07 Martín Herrera – Fulham – 2002–03 Emiliano Insúa – Liverpool – 2006–10 Érik Lamela – Tottenham Hotspur – 2013–18 Manuel Lanzini – West Ham United – 2015–18 Carlos Marinelli – Middlesbrough – 1999–2004 Emiliano Martínez – Arsenal – 2014–15, 2016–17 Javier Mascherano – West Ham United, Liverpool – 2006–11 Juan Carlos Menseguez – West Bromwich Albion – 2008–09 Nicolás Otamendi – 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Is he though? Did he just get lucky with his Vestergaard and Gunn predictions and he was right about Shaqiri going to Liverpool before it was in the press.

If we are signing 2 strikers then Ings is worth a gamble at 5-7m If he's our only striker purchase this summer then it's another major f-up by the club. Sign Ings and Vincent Aboubakar and sell Long and loan out Sam G = good times.

A few on here are Everton obseesed. Increased after they took Koeman off us. U only need to flick through the 142 page (7,000 posts) "detectors watch" thread to see we have a few weak and bitter fans.

22 in one game!? That's almost as many as we scored in the league all season Tbf we were playing mini Chinese teams and pumping them

Just evidence that the club will overpay for very average talent. But agree zero relevance to this as its only the same club, same management and more overpriced average talent. + the Carillo catastrophe was years ago right.

l'll just leave this here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/42826326

We have a sensitive bunch of fans that's for sure. If a guy (or gal) ****s up badly on the job then I will let them know. It's not "nasty, vindictive and vile" lol Les has performed badly past 2-3 years and his time at SFC is up.