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Well our ‘fans’ have been doing stuff like this for years so it’s clearly not that they’ve decided 3 years of shite is the tipping point. It’s fucking embarrassing.

Personally i think it’d have been more acceptable for him to have sent DCC off (still incorrect, when you see what Ziyech got away with at the weekend) than it was to give a penalty. A red card would’ve been soft as shit but kind of logical, the penalty was completely ridiculous.

I didn’t realise them being League 2 and us being Prem was factored into whether the penalty gets given. You will never see a penalty (or free kick for that matter) get given for someone slapping someone’s back nowhere near the ball, ever again.

Feel like St Mary’s has been pretty shit since Virgin Media made that mental decision to subsidise away fans for two seasons. We are just the dream away day. We’ve had our moments in that time don’t get me wrong, but generally it is just so flat and devoid of excitement. I didn’t want Ralph sacked but even I thought during the Newcastle game ‘this is so shit and flat, maybe a change will bring some life back at least’ - little did I know!

I said if the market is kind to us - But if you said the first 5 went for £30mil each i think that’d be conservative on the side of JWP and Lavia particularly (considering his buy back is way above that) given the length of contracts. Equally £30mil might be a stretch for each of KWP, ABK and Salisu given their respective experience and contract length, but it wouldn’t be a million miles away. Then Tella and Che are both £15mil players at least in the modern game. That’s £180mil just on that basis.

I get the focus being on our performance but that second penalty was an absolute farce in every way. If McCarthy had the ball in his hands and DCC had done that on the halfway line, would the ref have moved the ball up there for a free kick? Not a chance. Every game these things happen and the game gets stopped, players get a talking to, play restarts from the keeper. It was obviously a stupid reaction from DCC but if every player got penalised for stupid reactions we’d have 4 red cards a game and penalties every 10 minutes.

I also remember that United chance and have wondered what his season would’ve looked like had he scored that winner. Prior to that he’d scored on his debut and looked lively in both those games. If you’d have asked me 5/6 games into his time with us i’d have said he looked like a decent signing. You don’t go from scoring 30 odd goals in the Championship, to looking completely out of place against a mid table League 2 side without some degree of it being mental surely. When Che plays against lower teams in the cup he looks a class above and normally bags against them - Armstrong has not had an impact against any of them from what I can recall.

Personally despite what some are saying I actually think we have a number of players who will do well in the Championship, and the Championship will do well for them. Mara, Edozie, Bazunu, Larios (and Alcaraz if he sticks around) in particular I think are unlikely to get interest elsewhere but will do well at that level, and could do with it for their development. There are also some fringe players that I think would impress down there; Diallo, Djenepo, Perraud if they were willing to stick around. The problem would be some of the more experienced players, probably on the bigger wages, who have not done enough to get PL moves but also probably don’t want to play in the league below; DCC, Lyanco, Orsic, Bednarek, Sulemana, Aribo, Tall Paul, Elyounoussi. I imagine we’ll be loaning that lot out for years to come, like we were with Lemina etc. Thankfully what we have this season that we haven’t in previous is some genuinely saleable assets - Lavia, JWP, KWP, Salisu, ABK and perhaps also Che, given previous PL interest, and maybe Tella too now, would probably fetch us the best part of 200mil if the market was kind to us. As such, i’m not as fearful of our impending relegation as I would’ve been a couple of seasons back.

I guarantee you will not find me another example of a penalty given in England where two players are having an altercation nowhere near the ball, whilst the ball is in the goalkeepers arms, and one of those players gets a penalty.

I get the desire to pin all blame on the players (rightly so) after that absolute shit show. But we just saw probably the worst penalty decision you’ll ever seen, and you will never see one like it again. The ref is lucky no one cares about us, including our own fans, because that would be getting major heat if it was someone else.

Pretty mad that despite being as shit as we are, we’re now able to field an almost complete second string of senior players including most of the bench. So used to being about two injuries away from filling our bench with kids for important league games.

Not necessarily. Keep up, bigot, ffs.

Personally I think Leeds just wanted a manager in place before our game due to the criticism the board was getting. I can’t believe for a second that when Marsch was sacked they would’ve wanted Gracia to replace him. He does have a decent track record though, so not saying it’s a bad appointment, but definitely feels like a ‘he’ll do’ type situation.

Always thought it was a bit odd that he never really played CB - always he did okay when he arrived even out of position at full back.

It’s a lot easier to be accepted after Jones than it would’ve been after Ralph. He’s picked up the team at its lowest possible ebb really, and he’s just what the fans have needed whether he’s capable in the long run or not.

I agree on the lesser teams having an iconic figure. I often think how lucky Palace are to have a player the level of Zaha having played for them so long and delivering at such a high level. Whilst extremely different players, JWP is becoming our Zaha in that sense. Would love him to retire with all sorts of Saints records, one of the biggest disappointments of going down would be the likelihood of him departing.

I’m really hoping we’ve found the answer. As mentioned above he’s extremely likeable, he’s brought an optimism to the fanbase overnight, it would be a great story if he really does have what it takes. Also would be a nice sprinkling of irony if the manager who can get a tune out of our inexperienced team is the one with no managerial experience!

Chelsea got a concussion sub to replace Azpilicueta, and when that happens the opponent also get an extra substitute.

Glad you’re not our manager

Bazunu KWP ABK Salisu Perraud Lavia JWP Stu Sulemana Adams Onuachu Possible argument that Adams and Tall Paul will be wanting to similar things, but I think having two that can hold it up a bit will allow the other to get in the box more and hopefully we could see some crosses into Paul. Would have no problems with Adams dropping out and Sulemana going up top with possibly Alcaraz being the other 10.

Would you want him over JWP or Lavia? I know I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t take him over Romeu either (the version from a season or two back). He’s doing a very simple job well, for Spurs.

Personally I think the moment talks with Marsch collapsed it was Selles until the end of the season at least. They clearly wanted a move back towards Ralph’s style, and the ‘playbook’ that has been implemented throughout the club. They may have had doubts over whether Selles was quite ready yet, or perhaps wanted him to be Marsch’s successor at the end of his short term deal. I haven’t seen a single other name linked by anyone remotely reputable since Marsch was ruled out, I agree on no rush for Selles to be given the full time job officially but personally I don’t think we’re getting another manager in this season regardless of what happens.

I can’t remember the game but despite what that screenshot says it looks more like a 3/5 at the back to me, which was obviously NJ’s intentions so benefit of the doubt to Selles that he was putting out a team that might reflect what the new manager would be looking to do.

Didn’t do much for Everton against Liverpool, they were back to looking soft as shit

I had never heard this ‘your football is shit’ chant until our fans sung it at Palace. Is this new? Have Saints fans finally come up with an original chant?