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I believe that Dubai still posts on Sotonians. Frank’s Cousin is also there under a different name. FC is awesome. He can out waffle me!

Just as long as it also applies to all genders types including trans!

DellDays is Batman! Many old posters have ended up on Sotonians.

He is no more. A true legend and comedy genius. RIP Terry.

Some credit should be given to the “muppet chairman” for not panicking and sacking Ralph when many other chairmen would have done.

Yes. Wow!

I’ll be happy with a draw tonight.

Don’t you think that it might be different if we were still in the bottom three? It isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that Ralph has told the board to hold fire on new signings. There are still several days to go. Let’s see what happens.

There is clear evidence of racial evidence against Meghan Markle both in the mainstream media and more so on social media both directly and indirectly. This has been going on for 4 years. Fox dismissed it as if it was a fantasy. I don’t see how anyone can defend him. Has he seen everything that has been said about her? I haven’t seen what has been said about Diane Abbot but have no reason to disbelieve her when she says she is being racially abuse. I have no reason to disbelieve any other black MP when they say they are being racially abused. Why should it be any different for Markle? Harry has obviously seen this stuff. Is he making it up too? If Fox had said that nothing he had read seemed to be driven by racism, fair enough. But he didn’t. He just said we are a friendly tolerant country completely omitting that racism exists here. You call out other actors for being woke. Why not call out an actor for being a **** and making a stupidly ill informed comment?

Do you think what he said was ok?

That almost sounds patronising, but if it means that we can go forward as reasonable adults, l’ll take it.

You can’t mention those names, hypo is counting! Fox says that the criticism of her isn’t racist where some of it clearly is. His comment set him up for the reply which was fair enough. What DOES a privileged white man know about racial prejudice and what gives him the right to tell someone they haven’t been racially abused.

You really aren’t the easiest person to apologise to.

Which probably explains why you are so badly informed Duckie. Just think yourself lucky that you don’t have to use the system. If you did you would have some sympathy for those who are stuck with it.

I apologise for making a misleading statement. It isn’t easy doing this on a phone and I do misread or misinterpret things on occasion.

We are talking about racial abuse. Do you think that it is ok that MPs receive racial abuse? Do you think that it is ok for footballers to receive racial abuse? Do you think it is ok for Meghan Markle to receive racial abuse? Do you think it is ok for anybody to receive racial abuse? If the answer is no, just stop defending people who do the abusing or playing down the level of abuse.

The point being that black MPs get racially abused.

Do you have any personal experience of Universal Credit? Have you spoken to anybody who has? Have you seen the film I Daniel Blake? No wonder people think that many Tories are arseholes. The system sucks.

How about Japanese and Spanish. How many languages do you speak?

You did play down the racism in football thing. I remember it well because we had an exchange about it. I really don’t have the time or the inclination to trawl back through our many tedious rows to find it but trust me, it is there. You didn’t say that there was no racism in football but you did say it wasn’t as bad as it has been. I think we have heard differently from black players. We may generally be a friendly and tolerant country, but Fox completely whitewashed the point (no pun intended). There is plenty of racism and violence in this country but perhaps he doesn’t get out much. When black people say they are being abused and white people tell them they are not, that doesn’t sound good does it?

I didn’t make it up. You said that it wasn’t such a big deal these days ( or words to that effect) and played it down. It something you do quiet often. You did the same over the issue over women’s pay. You seem to have a knee jerk reaction to anything remotely “woke” (WTF that means). Anyway, back to the thread. Harry and Meghan have been talking about receiving racial abuse since 2016. As they have been on the receiving end of it I expect they know more about than you or I. I have read some very unpleasant articles from a very well known racist recently which have attacked Meghan. Neither of us knows what motivated those articles but if they come from a nailed on racist you would be hard pressed to say that racism played no part. We are in danger of straying into Laurence Fox territory. He dismissed the claims that the hatred towards had nothing to do with racism because we are a nice friendly, tolerant country. No we are not. Another three people have been stabbed to death today. As I am writing this people will be told to go back to their own countries. Like any society we have murders, rapists, thieves, racists etc in our communities. He was called out for being a privileged white boy who didn’t have a clue about people on the end of racist abuse and rightly so. Diane Abbot gets infinitely more hate mail than any other MP. If she was white do you think that would be the case? It is very easy for a bunch of white blokes sitting around our keyboards to dismiss this stuff as no big deal. I did the same when I first read about these issues. Since reading more of the social media comments and even some of the more main stream stuff, I can see why they are complaining.

None of my daughters are doing media studies but don’t let that stop using a stereotype to make an invalid point.

Playing Devil’s advocate, given that we aren’t seeing record numbers of transfers so far in this window, perhaps they have all looked at the current options and none of them are that great. None of us wants another duff signing, least of all the club.

You might be right but you have absolutely no idea what motivates people to write hateful articles about a person and there have been some pretty awful things written about her. Just because an article doesn’t specify race, it doesn’t mean to say that that is not the motivation behind it. You didn’t believe that racism still existed in football despite black players coming out and saying that it is. I read an article the other day saying that Harry shouldn’t be with Markle but should be with a “naughty blonde.” If that isn’t a racial distinction I don’t know what is. How do you know that the editor of the Mail doesn’t share Marney’s view about the Royal family being “tainted” but didn’t have the nerve to print it. Along comes someone who conveniently sends something on social media. Bingo. He can print it without taking any responsibility for the view himself. Job done. Pure conjecture of course, but no more than your assertion that hateful articles are not driven by racist undertones.

No, I didn’t support it but their debt is down to the way that you hard nosed righties run the economy.