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You also have an axe to grind my strange little mollusc. Is it possible to “bandy about” too freely when people post in support of it? I have an issue with people who pretend to be what they are not. You have an issue with that. Perhaps you should also get over yourself and speak out against people who support the likes of Yaxley-Lennon? Unless of course you think they have a point? As for your comment about Katie Hopkins, how old are you?

It was appropriated by the white supremacists and neo Nazis in America Sue. Pepe's creator is apparently suing right wing media platform InfoWars for copyright infringement as he is not happy that his little frog character is being used by the alt-right. Hypo knows all of this of course and his claim that it is not being used as a symbol by far right groups is nonsense (or as he would say, "a lie"). Both in this thread and in the thread about terrorism he has come out in support of various right wing agitators and mouthpieces. The posts are there in black and white. He is of course entitled to his own views, but to pretend that he doesn't favour the far right is not born out in his posting history and the fact that he rushes to the defence of any far right pronouncers when they are called out on here. Yes, even Donald Bloody Trump! As you say, to pretend that he is anything other than he portrays himself on here is chuckleworthy. I was told once that you could always judge someone by the company they keep. Anyone speaking up for the likes of Trump and Yaxley-Lennon (and even that deeply unpleasant "tells it as it is" media whore Katie Hopkins) clearly has sympathies far right of centre.

You have come out on this forum backing up people like Trump, Yaxley-Lennon, Katie Hopkins, Rees-Mogg and Johnson. You ignored Sour Mash’s clearly racist outpourings on the terrorist thread preferring instead to have a pop at people supporting law abiding Muslims and immigrants. You came out with the famous phrase “socialism is dangerous.” I don’t recall you ever posting in support of anything slightly left of centre. Oh yes, there was your other classic, “thank God my wife isn’t a Muslim.” Plus of course the use of the alt-right avatar. I rest my case. As for you Verbal, still smarting over that Sotonians nonsense? If you had read my response you would have seen that I wasn’t supporting the original post and hit the like button for a completely different reason which I tried to explain to you in a pm. I think you had probably left at that point. Oh well...sorry if you think I am boring but I don’t think people like hypo should be left unchallenged. At least you know what you are getting with Sour Mash and he doesn’t pretend to be something he is not, unlike hypo. As you clearly are so much better at this and far more imaginative, I will leave it to you to carry the banner.

For God’s sake, man up. You sound like a pimply youth who has been turned down by a girl for a date to the prom. He isn’t the first transfer target who has decided to go elsewhere and he won’t be the last. Strange as it may seem, signing for Southampton isn’t on the top of everyone’s bucket list. You of all people so know this, given that you say we are run like a crappy seaside b & b. There will be others who do want to sign, so cheer up. Although, saying that, I doubt if you will ever find someone to go to the prom with you!

I believe that we had an option to buy rather than a legal agreement for him to come here permanently. He chose (surprise, surprise) to go to Spurs instead. Norwich apparently accepted bids from both ourselves and Leicester for the player and it would seem that, for whatever reason, he would rather go to Leicester. Two players making choices based on their preference, but hey, lets just use their decisions to bash the club eh? Its a wonder anyone ever signs for us, isnt it?

Yes it is a wild assumption because neither you nor I have any idea about the number of people who knew about it and have no shame (as you said). I dont think that the only people who knew about it were the ones in the dock. I also dont believe that the whole community knew about it. There are plenty of things that go on in all communities that other people in that community know nothing about. I am not "comparing" this to the Ched Evans' case. They are clearly two different sets of circumstances although I think you would be more outraged by his conduct if he was Muslim. If you read my comments you will see that I am talking about respect for women and the lack of it shown by those who abuse them - which relates to your lack of shame comments. That is comparable in pretty much every sexual abuse case going. If you watched the BBC programme about grooming, they did make the point that there was a lack of respect for the girls involved but they also pointed out that the girls were "available." Had Muslim girls been hanging around with the "white girls" do we know that they wouldn't have been involved with the sexual abuse too? As I say, you make huge assumptions based on your clear prejudices. There are plenty of Asian communities in this country that dont include these grooming gangs, not that you are bothered about those because you have made your mind up that Muslim men = sexual abusers.

Of course the much bigger wage packet had absolutely nothing to do with his decision. Personally I blame Reed for the fact that Messi went to Barcelona and Ronaldo went to Madrid.

Both kits look good to me. Not to much you can do with red and white stripes but this design looks pretty cool. The socks look great.

Female and black. I’d have put my mortgage on hypo making a comment about her competence! Best place for her is in the kitchen eh hypo? ? There are plenty of poor male pundits on the telly but let’s have a go at the silly girl. She is still better than Andy Townsend!

A tiny number. So how many are still getting away with it? You say thousands knew about it. How do you know how many knew about it? It is just a wild assumption on your part. Again, how many sex offenders do you know feel shame. Why are you just hung up on some men who happen to be Muslims? Of course they had a lack of respect for their victims. If sex offenders had respect for their victims they would sexually assault them would they? Did white man and football superstar Ched Evans show the slightest bit of respect for the women he ****ged in a hotel room when she was drunk? Some may show shame, but only when caught and they have to face the consequences of their actions publicly. No I am not saying that it is a pure coincidence, but if we believe what you say then all Muslims would be in sex grooming gangs and clearly these scumbags are still in the large minority. We do have large groups of white men carrying out sexual acts against children. Have you not been following the numbers of clergy being charged with sexual offences in this country, or are you too busy just focussing on Muslim offenders? What happened is appalling but is it any more appalling than the Australian comedian who was recently raped and killed while walking home or any of the other sexual assaults that go on all of the time all over the world? You are hung up on the fact that dark skinned men are targeting fair skin girls, what is wrong here is that men are assaulting women and girls. Check the law and you will see that it is not a greater offence if a Muslim rapes a non Muslim female, as much as you might think that it ought to be.

If they think that the squad is good enough to compete in the Premiership, you would think that message would be coming from the manager as well. Hughes doesnt strike me as the kind of guy who would bite his tongue if he thought that the squad was rubbish. When he first arrived he said he was impressed with the quality in the club. I wouldnt be at all surprised to only see the signing of a couple of players this summer. But then a lot depends on who they are prepared to let go, which would be dependent of the size of the bid and the club making that bid. The upside of having such a poor season is that the big clubs arent queuing up to pinch our players this summer. Who would anyone half decent want? Lemina, Bertrand and Soares? That's probably about it at the moment. At best I would expect a possible replacement for Austin up front, a winger and a defender.

You have a mate? Singular I note. Do you wear matching Pepe t-shirts? Not for the first time you duck the issue and go off at an irrelevant tangent as a smokescreen. Just so as we are clear, you constantly support far right extremists and alt right mouthpieces on here. You use an avatar which has been appropriated by the alt right, clearly not ironically given your posting history. We can all see where you are coming from so why try and keep up the pretence?

How many sex offenders do you know? How many feel shame about what they have done? Whether these vile scumbags feel shame or not really isnt the issue. They have been banged up and will be on the sex offenders list for most of the rest of their lives and that is the main thing. You are grouping people together. You are making an issue about Muslims when it is a tiny minority that have been involved in these particular cases and, as you are well aware, sex offenders come in all shapes, sizes, colours, creeds etc. I am pretty sure that you know nothing about their local communities and whether they feel shame or not. Likewise their loved one, relatives etc. These people have had their mug shots plastered all of the media and they have given the likes of you more ammunition to fire at Muslims and immigrants. I would imagine that most right minded people living in their communities and not involved in these rings were horrified when the news broke, but then that is me making an assumption just as you assume that the Muslim community are ok with these crimes. There may well be a rise of racists in Europe but that is different to Europe being over run by racists. And just this morning I read that the NHS are asking to relax the immigration targets because they are struggling to recruit. So you see, immigration is an important to both the workforce and the economy and without it, Europe would struggle. I know this is not good news to the Yaxley-Lennons of this world, but you guys will just have to suck it up.

The swastika is an ancient religious icon that was also appropriated by the far right. We pretty much know where people are coming from when they use it themselves nowadays. As far your political leanings, given that you constantly support far right extremists and alt-right agitators on here, the fact that you are using an image appropriated by the alt-right pretty much nails you to their cause.

That's a no then is it Shylock? This is a very disappointing put down by someone with such a long and illustrious history of slagging off fellow posters. Foolish of me to think that anyone else is allowed to have a pop at other posters too. Carry on pal.

I dont feel "smug and good about how morally superior" I am to every one else - just those, like you who either are extremists or support extremists. Following your ridiculous quote that "socialism is dangerous" you have gone on to support the likes of Trump, Yaxley-Lennon, Katie Hopkins, Rees-Mogg, Johnson etc. What do they have in common? Yes, they are all very right of centre so let's not pretend that you have any kind of balance here with anything left of centre. The reason we assume that your (strange) use of Pepe the Frog as your avatar has anything to do with anything other than the alt-right is based on your many, many posts slagging the left and supporting the (often) far right. You are a long busted flush. As for this summit being a success and making the world a safer place? Really? Let's just see what actually happens apart from two extremists soaking up plenty of self publicity and not actually committing to anything concrete. Is that grey enough for you Pepe?

After Duckhunters rant against the late Butch Wilkins for drink driving can we expect the same level of outrage against one of our own players for also doing something stupid behind the wheel?

Do you remember when you were on here everyday telling us that Pelle was rubbish?

No surprise to see you supporting him. Oh, and yes, he is as appalling as "some" (most of the right minded eastern and western world) have made out.

As are some posters on this forum.

But that simply isnt true. There are other types of grooming gangs and, of course, plenty of people who act on their own and religion does not come into it. As for the shame comment, you know this to be true in every case? That is a pretty big generalisation, as are you comments about Europeans and their views. You say that they are deliberately "praying" on another ethnicity - maybe they are just easy and available prey? But it really doesnt matter because what this is about is rape and sexual assault. It is not about the men being Muslim (not all of them are anyway) and the white girls being "trash." Sadly there are men still who see women as second class citizens and these come from all backgrounds. Of course you can say native Europeans if you want. You seem to feel the need to group certain types of people together to make your point and using the phrase "native Europeans" sounds like a phrase that Tommy would use to differentiate the guys in the white hats from the guys in the black hats. I have travelled around Europe a bit in the last few years and I dont see what you seem to see. Fortunately the racists are still in the minority and are seen as being a moronic throwback to darker times. People like me are still in the majority no matter what you would like to believe as is evident by the way that people like Yaxley-Lennon are viewed.

Jewish grooming gangs? So are we to assume that these are not grooming gangs but Muslim grooming gangs? This would make their actions somehow linked to the religion would it not? I am sure you can tell us where in the Koran it says that men shall group together for the purpose of grooming and having sex with young girls. As for Yaxley-Lennon and his politics and the attempts by some on here to water them down. Anyone who wants to exclude people from this country on the basis of their religion or ethnicity and anyone who seeks to stop them building places of worship for their own religious beliefs is clearly pretty far along the right wing spectrum. Anyone who sets up something called the English Defence League is pretty far along the right wing spectrum. I dont know whether he is a Nazi, a neo Nazi or just another rabid far right agitator, but it is very plain to anyone that the bloke is extreme in his views. As for the use of the phrase, "Native European citizens", I think you have just given yourself away mate. When you say "people like you" I assume you mean people who are anti White Supremacists?

But according to you though they don’t exist on here? Despite the obvious support from some for that clear racist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. And let’s not forget that “socialism is dangerous” eh?

My dear Duckster, I couldn't care less what you called Ali and it has nothing whatsoever to do with this bloke. If he were to call himself Tina or Jane or Mary it makes no difference because he will still be a far right racist agitator (sorry to use an "ist" hypo, but that is what he is despite you trying to find an acceptable side to his beliefs). What does confuse me is why you are so hung up on what he or others call him and you dont seem remotely bothered by his politics and beliefs. I know that you are still stuck in a pot cloud from the 60s but the world has moved on somewhat. We dont make shows like Love Thy Neighbour anymore, people like Stephen Tommy Robinson Yaxley-Lennon are, thankfully, in the minority and their views are seen as abhorrent to most normal people. Oh, and hypo, I really don't have issues with people with different views. I do have issues with people who have issues with those of different race or religion and more so with those who pretend that they don't, but clearly do.

So his attempt at illegal entry into another country makes him a "naughty boy" whereas if Muslims do it they are criminals? I see. This is for Lord Duckhunter - he was born Stephen Christopher Yaxley. He then went on to acquire his step- father's name and became Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. He names uses the name "Tommy Robinson" and has also used the names "Andrew McMaster" and "Paul Harris." Which name would you prefer I use when addressing him? He does seem to have a lot of names doesnt he? As for you hypo, I clearly dont mention you in every post, but I do in some. The reason being that you finally outed yourself as an alt right supporter. Your early responses in the terrorist thread hinted as such but it is good to see you have finally nailed your colours to the mast and we can now lump you together with the likes of Sour Mash, Batman and Orange. At least with those three they dont pretend to be something they are not. It is good to see you finally embrace your inner far rightness after all of that earlier pretence. Let's not pretend that "Tommy" has been misunderstood and is only against the extreme elements amongst Muslims and other immigrants. He has clearly come out against all Muslims migrating to this country and wants to stop the building of Mosques. As before, you will be able to find something in most extremist's repertoire that many reasonable people will be able to agree with, but if something looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is probably is a duck. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is clearly a dyed in the wool racist/Islamaphobe and he is not a naughty boy, he is a convicted criminal.