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Absolutely this, especially one on this thread again having another cheap pop at another poster (and who thinks it is clever and funny to make fun of a young man's brutal murder). Of course he wrote those words himself. Anyone who has heard and read his interviews would know that. He is clearly a decent, dignified and respectful man. Why should he have resigned? He wanted to turn things round and was on the brink of an FA Cup semi-final. How many managers would turn their backs on that? How many managers ever resign? All he is guilty of is not winning football matches. Hardly a hanging offence, although you might think it was given the way some people react.

Go back and read what you wrote. You said you would not read it because as it was in the Telegraph "so bound to be the 'club' defending its corner." It isnt at all. But even if it was, perhaps reading something that challenges your built in prejudices occasionally wouldn't hurt?

I seem to remember the only upside to not sacking Pellegrino when all the other managers were being sacked is that we weren't suckered in to giving jobs to the likes of Hodgson, BFS, Pardew, Pulis and Hughes. D'oh!

There is a clue in the op. It is not defending the club.

You are one sick individual. But I am sure your Muslim in-laws think you are a hoot.

Classy as ever, pal

Writing a new manager or a team off after a couple of months remains the preserve of a consummate bed wetter. Dalek has been going on about 17th place for years. We might actually finish 17th this year but it doesn’t make him Mystic Meg. There are posters on here who have been saying that we will fail ever since Cortese left yet we continued to improve after he left. The league is full of clubs our size who go through good periods and poor periods. This season is a poor period. It was going to happen sometime.

Worse than Pelle?

Dont we get more money if we stay up?

Clearly there are issues with some elements of how some Muslims interpret the Koran but I think it goes deeper than that. Racism? Tribalism? Despite some on this thread not having it, there is very obviously a disparity between how sections of our society view criminal acts carried out by people viewed as not being of our society than those from within it. A Muslim or an immigrant carry out a criminal act will get far more media attention than someone as seen as being one of us. There has been another example of this yesterday in Oldham. A man was stabbed to death in Oldham after attending prayers in a mosque. You can bet your mortgage that Batman would have posted something about this if a Muslim had attacked a non Muslim. As it is it doesnt warrant a mention. Same crime but not worthy of comment on a thread that has been dealing with issues between different factions in our society. My wife and I were talking about a similar situation the other day. We both have children from previous partners and agree that we are more tolerant of our own children's behaviour than we are of others. I am less tolerant of her son's behaviour and she of my daughters. Another example relates to our very own football club. When Cortese was in charge and there was a lot of talk about his behaviour, there were lots of comments about he might be a **** but he is our ****. If he had been running another club he would have got a dogs abuse regarding his behaviour, but as he was one of us, our tribe, we could live with it. It is human nature and it happens all the time. I just dont see why some posters on here pretend that is isnt happening when this very thread is living proof that it is.

Another bizarre post. Using RIP is just a basic respectful response. You seem to have problems with that? Anyway, this thread is not about you. He was clearly greatly respected as shown by the reaction at his funeral. In a world where many professional footballers behave like prima donnas it is good to see someone respected for also being a decent human being. RIP

Do you really think he would have stayed?

You dont have to be great at what you used to do to be a decent coach. There are plenty of top class tennis coaches who didnt win much in their careers. Football wise Lawrie Mac had a modest playing career before he became a manager. That is not to say that Kelvin is or could be a top coach of course!

So you completely missed the point that (many) posters on here have come on to support Muslims and immigrants due to the fact that the racists and Islamophobes were tarring them all with the same brush? The Katie Hopkins thing had absolutely nothing to do with her being a Christian or not. It was your attempt at deflection. The point was that the deeply unpleasant media whore was castigating peaceful Muslims and saying it was their responsibility to do more about Islamic terrorism - something which you agreed with, despite the fact that there had been a protest march in London my Muslims just days before. This is the woman who called immigrants coachroaches and made fun out of them dying at sea. But you would rather attack someone attack her than attack her. Speaks volumes. Due to the amount of nonsense being levelled at peaceful Muslims and immigrants, issues about Christianity not being perfect either were rightly raised. You seem to find it funny that the fact was raised that Germany was a predominantly Christian country when we went to war in 1939. I guess you people from the far right are easily deluded and amused. There are Christian "gangs" operating all over the UK raping and sexually abusing people. They are members of the clergy. The fact that they are not Muslim or immigrants doesnt make their behaviour any less abhorrent. Your constant pathetic jokes about Maidstone again mask the point. This place goes ape**** by the usual suspects every time Muslims and immigrants commit serious crimes yet they are being committed on a regular basis in our cities and towns and you and your buddies ignore them and wait for the next round of Muslim/immigrant slagging. You completely ignore the point that murder, rape and sexual assault are no more heinous if they are carried out by Muslims and or immigrants. The reason is quite clear, and it is the same reason that you ignored the many racists and Islamophobic comments earlier on this thread. Because you have some sympathy with them. You would far rather make facile comments about Katie Hopkins religion, Nazi belt buckles, Maidstone or a young guy being beaten to death than deal head on with clear racist and Islamophobic posts because you agree with them. I am sure none of us will forget your comment thanking God that your wife wasnt a Muslim. I am not sure if she would see it as dodging a bullet or not, if she was one. You are not funny. You are not clever. You are a deeply unpleasant person who pretends to be caring and liberal but doesn't have the wit or intelligence to stop your true feelings and beliefs from leaking out.

I can see why you back up the likes of Katie Hopkins and Jacob Rees-Mogg. You are just as odious. I wonder how your (non-Muslim) wife would feel about you making fun of the brutal murder of a young, homeless immigrant? Do you think she would be proud that you spend your days spouting this bile on an internet forum? Your comments on the Davide Astori thread were odd too. Just another foreigner died. So what? You are really all heart aren't you?

1) Within a sniff of an FA Cup Semi Final. 2) Decent kit. 3) No knee jerk panicking by the club. 4) Despite struggling to score goals we have still scored more than 8 other Premiership clubs. 5) We have a support base that is 100% behind the owners, the Board and the team (now that, Batman, is sarcasm)

You are a really strange individual aren't you? As for praying for Maidstone. Hilarious. Instead, how about just showing a bit of respect for the poor kid who was beaten to death for no good reason? Or aren't you bothered because he wasnt killed by Muslims?

Haven't really got the hang of this sarcasm lark have you? Also what is a "fast high institutions style of football?"

Whilst the conspiracy theories are good for a laugh, it would appear that either a) The club believe in him and are prepared to stand by him for the season or b) any better alternatives on the club's wish list are not currently available so they are sticking with what they have for now. As for potential managers not wanting to come here, when MP leaves I am willing to bet that there will still be plenty of managers interested in the job.

Once again you completely miss the point. These random stabbings as you call them dont have to be talked about in a thread about terrorism (although how many times has this thread gone off topic?). The rise in knife crime, the new trend in acid attacks, these things deserve threads of their own. Yet it seems that unless these things are carried out by Muslims or immigrants the outrage level doesnt warrant major discussion here? Yes, of course it is right that the abhorrent acts carried out by any type of terrorists gets discussed, but the fact remains that we are all more likely to get killed or maimed by "our own" than terrorists. There was the usual kicking off on here about gangs of "foreign" sexual abusers yet, seemingly on an almost weekly basis we see news stories of Christian clergy being accused of sexual abuse and there is little or no response. I will ask you the same question again. What makes the abhorrent acts committed by Muslims and immigrants more worthy of comment on an internet forum than similar crimes carried out by those who we recognise as "one of us?" Also, as you were one of the people who thought it was funny when I raised the point that local communities were having to deal with serious anti social behaviour on a regular basis citing Maidstone as an example (as I lived there and worked for the CPS in their Maidstone office for a number of years so had first hand knowledge) here is another bit of stomach churning news. A young homeless Romanian man was beaten to death in a park in Loose, just outside Maidstone by three teenagers last year. All three were found guilty of his murder and received long jail sentences. You may have missed this on the news but I suspect that if the victim had been English and the three attackers of Eastern European origin, our resident Immigration correspondent would have been all over it like a rash. We are up to page 124 on this topic. I bet you anything you like that if I were to start a thread on indigenous knife crime, acid attacks or sexual assault by Christian clergy, all things that happen here with sickening regularity, they would fizzle out after a few pages. So what makes these actions more comment worthy to some members of this forum when carried out by Muslims or immigrants than similar crimes carried out by "our own?"

Not very classy point scoring on a thread like this, pal. Very sad news when a young apparently fit family man passes away suddenly. RIP

Not if this website is anything to go by.

If Kat has had the misfortune to read this rubbish I can’t blame her for selling up.

Source?

My football club secretary got two tickets every year and gave one to me as he knew I supported Saints (we were based in London). Sadly I was sat in the United end and was wearing a yellow jumper as I hadn't bothered to check what kit we would be wearing. Despite standing out like a sore thumb I got away with it, probably because of my London accent. When we were walking down the steps at the end the Utd supporters were lobbing cans which landed amongst their own supporters. Tw*ts. They were not happy bunnies. They thought that they only had to turn up and collect the cup.