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They have raised £71m so far and over £1 billion since Comic Relief started. They must be laughing all the way to the bank. Thrilling stuff eh?

And yet you are more likely to be killed by a boy racer from your own town in his car than a terrorist. Mental.

In any discussion there has to be a measure of balance. We have talked about the "Christians" or "The West" as not being perfect either and quite rightly. Muslims don't have the monopoly on poor behaviour. What puzzles me is that for someone who has married into a Muslim family, you seem completely insensitive to Islamophobia. Do you not read Sour Mash's posts? On pretty much a daily basis he attacks Islam (not just the extremists) but you let him be and go after those who support peaceful Muslims. Why is that? I don't see apologists here. I see people sick to death of the extremist attacks but also mindful that we are not blameless and the policies of "The West" have done nothing to help relations between us. You now seem to be obsessed with normal Muslims being responsible for these nutters and not doing enough to distance themselves from the attacks. After a recent attack thousands of Muslims took to the streets of London to protest against IS and extremism. This seems to have passed you and the mainstream media by. Right after the attack the other day Muslims started an online request for money for the fallen PCs family and had raised £3k within the first hour. There are constant pictures of Muslims holding placards saying not in my name. How do you know that communities are not working with the police and security services on a regular basis? And why should a normal, peaceful Muslim be held responsible for the actions of a delusional psychopath? On the same day of the attack, Michael Lane was sentenced to 25 years in prison for cutting the throat of his former girlfriend. Are you are I responsible for his actions? Of course not. Muslims are just as likely to die in these random attacks and are probably are just as concerned as we are about the possibility of getting caught up in something like this. Many of the people who carry out these attacks have criminal records. The current guy has a previous history of violence, knifing several people. Why is this guy the responsibility of other Muslims? One of the most affecting quotes of the last couple of days comes from Jo Cox's husband, Brendan Cox - "The person who did this is no more representative of British Muslims than the person who killed Jo is a representative of the people that are from Yorkshire." If a man who lost his loved one can see that Muslims are not responsible for the actions of a minority of extremists, why cant you?

Really? Where? I see plenty of people condemning the sickening acts of terrorism. I also see plenty of people pointing out that the problem lies with the extremists and not with Islam in general. For someone who says he is close to Muslims why do you never condemn those who openly slag off all Muslims in this thread?

Who doesn't admit there is a problem? There clearly is but some people still seem to think that all Islam is a problem, which is why some repeat over and over again that the problem is with the extremist factions and not with the majority of Muslims.

But let's not jump to conclusions.....

I see, so you send money in depending on how funny you think it is. Is that how it works?

Have we only been playing him because no one else wants him??? Do we know that no one else has ever been interested in him?

"People like him?" I would imagine that many posters on here see you as someone like him. Blinkered and nationalistic to a fault. Didn't Nelson Mandela start out as the leader of a terrorist organisation? He ended up working for peace, and that is the main point.

Different people laugh at different things. If the point is to make Batman laugh rather than provide money for good causes then I think there is something wrong here. Also if the amount raised is dependent on the amount of laughs provided, we are missing the point big time.

I guess some people here base a players' value on the speed at which he is poached by a "bigger" club. Those that don't go are clearly rubbish and not wanted elsewhere. Just a few weeks ago there was much wrist slitting about the club captain leaving for another club. Davis is the club captain. He also captains his national team. He has been an integral part in our continual improvement since he has been here. He is a decent player.

Rooney is not in the current squad so cant be our captain in the next two matches.

I think you are missing the point of Red Nose Day. It is supposed to raise money for charitable causes, not give you a laugh.

Remind me again, is Puel still here? Only you did say that he would be gone by Christmas.

In Franny's case I don't think it was a case of his head not being turned, it was more a question of no one else wanting him!

I think Mings has been hard done by. He was looking away seemed to be trying to clear the huddle. Very hard to prove intent from the footage. Not so hard to prove intent from Ibrahimovic so why does one get 3 matches and the other 5?

So Puel is still here despite you saying he would be gone by Christmas and Wilson is going to stay. Not a great track record is it Batman?

Tell that to Long John Silver.

Love this thread. The same people who soil their mattresses when certain players are rumoured to be wanted by other clubs peddling players that THEY don't want here. So it is ok if they go if you don't rate them, but not so if you do? I hope JRod doesn't read this thread. Talk about going from hero to zero!

Fonte did well for us and we did well for him. Sadly the more he tries to justify himself the deeper the hole he digs. His agent and his new club should tell him to shut up. For me he has just confirmed all of the negative things said about him since he returned from the Euros. He was a decent player for us, but he really doesn't seem very bright.

Another 4 goals away from home. Not too shabby. We go through periods where we switch off though. Look excellent going forward!

Even if we had taken the game "seriously" there is no guarantee that we would have won it. And I stand to be corrected but if we had got through that round, would we have had the same number in the draw as Arsenal?