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Not if the reported £16m fee is true.

He said one of the first names, not the first name.

We are being linked with plenty of players in the media. Ok, 95% of the rumours are BS but I don't think we need worry about no further transfer activity inwards for a while yet.

No, of course not. But it just follows the usual line of thinking up a worst case scenario and flogging it to death. Still, on the plus side, we have signed one senior player so at least we know we will not go through this window without signing anyone.

Hired by Puel or the club? If they didn't think he was doing a good job why would they keep him, despite what some on here who are supposedly ITK will have us believe.

Right this is my lot with you hypo. You are a boring little tick and if I am bored you can bet dozens of others are too. If you are man enough, lets take this to the beef thread on Sotonians. I doubt if you will but it is better than this tedious circular argument here. As you responded to my previous post I will respond to that, but no more from you on this thread on this forum. 1. You were the one who said lots of people. If you say something like that you need to substantiate it. Yes it is tedious, but if you are not prepared to back up a claim, don't make it in the first place. I'll help you out. You, CB Fry and Whelk (none of whom have a great deal of credit). So let's have some big hitters. By the way, the Maidstone claim was completely twisted. By the belt I assume you mean the bit where some of you tried to pretend that the German army were not Christians (and plenty of people came on with evidence that they were) and Hopkins, well we shall come to that next. While you are at it, let us have the list of names of posters on here who are apologists for the terrorists (yes, another of your strange yet unsubstantiated claims). My point was an still is, if the teachings of the Koran are so entrenched in violence, why are the vast majority of Muslims peaceful? Yes Christian have performed many abhorrent acts too. Is that not true? Many people in the enlightened West still have old fashioned views about women and gays. Is that not true? No terrorist organisation has ever been defeated by the military. You still haven't explain to any degree of satisfaction how we are going to defeat bedroom based terrorists here with the army or the air force. Many senior politicians have made the point that peace with the extreme elements of Islam will only eventually be achieved by dialogue. I am not the only one saying that. Yes, a great many Nazis, including the hierarchy were Christians. You can pretend they weren't. It doesn't change history. I didn't say that Hopkins comparing herself to Jesus meant she was a Christian. I did say there was plenty of evidence that she had been raised as one and was raising her own daughter as a Christian. I am not inclined to look, you made the claim, you back it up. 3. You had an extensive go at me when I said that we would not beat the terrorists with the military. In fact I think your point at the time was that we would have to kill them all. You said that my view on Islam was invalid because I didn't have any Muslim friends (and because you have a Muslim uncle your view carried more weight). I queried on many occasions why you were getting on my case when there was a clear racist here that you were ignoring. At the time both you and CB Fry were trying to pretend I was making that up. 4. When I called Katie Hopkins on her assertion that Muslims were not doing enough to renounce or combat terrorism, not only did you defend her position, you also muddied the point by taking it off on a weird tangent about her not being a Christian. Please don't pretend that you didn't. I wasted many precious moments of my life defending myself from you. 5. I have never said that a desire for Muslims to do more is racism. I said what do you expect them to do if they don't know anything in the first place? According to the security forces it seems that plenty who do know things do come forward. There was also a big march in London by Muslims against terrorism at the time we were arguing about this point but you chose to ignore that. 6. More moderate things? What is more moderate than not we are at danger from a small minority, not the huge majority FFS? 7. Your very strange view that my beliefs do "normal Muslims" more harm than good is beyond belief. I am not part of the problem you total fruit cake, the terrorists are the problem. So then, no more of this nonsense, come and find me on Sotonians and we will give the good folk here a welcome rest.

That reminds me, where is your list of apologists for terrorists on here?

Lots? Ok I know that you never, ever substantiate any of these types of outpourings, but let's have a list please. Interesting to see you mentioning Sour Mash at last. As far as I know you have only challenged him once in the whole thread. A case of right wing extremists sticking together maybe? So then, I am the opposite side of SM and live within an echo chamber. I know you feel aggrieved when I say that normal Muslims are no more responsible for the terrorist acts than you or Sour Mash, but what exactly do you think that my "close minded" ideology is? You have jumped down my throat because I have said that we will not beat these terrorists by military means, you have jumped down my throat because I am not best buddies with a Muslim, you jump down my throat because I have been calling out a clear racist (despite you saying earlier there were no racists on this thread), you took Katie Hopkins side when I said she was out of order when she had a go at Muslims for not doing more against the terrorists. It sounds to me the only reason you are having a pop at me is because you have got a thing against Muslims. You pretend to support the non extreme element but in actual fact you have issues with them (do you remember being thankful that your wife wasn't a practising Muslim - does that mean you wouldn't have married her if she was?). When this thread started I was pretty much on my own. Thankfully since those early days, may more have come on saying exactly the same things (although you only pick me up and not them) so let us not pretend I am the only one speaking up for normal Muslims. It is a shame that there aren't any actual Muslims here to speak up for themselves, but someone has to, given the drivel that some of you spout. You have no backbone hypo. You have completely bottled it on Sotonians where you just lurk occasionally and vote me down before running back here where you feel safer but still get picked up by posters who see you for what you are. I'll say one thing for Sour Mash, at least he has the bottle to come out and say what he really believes. You get away with it here (just) you don't get away with it on Sotonians that is why you have crawled back under your stone there.

Look at by whom. I rest my case.

I wish I could agree with you, but these people need to be challenged at every opportunity to stop their ignorant views spreading further. It wasn't that long ago on this thread when some of our more eminent posters were saying that there were no racists on here. At least we have moved past that point. The more we tell people like that that their views are unacceptable the more we will shut them up.

So instead of ignoring him perhaps you should challenge his views instead of mine?

So instead of ignoring him perhaps you should challenge his views instead of mine?

If you have nothing in common with Sour Mash why do you spend more time attacking me than him? As for the whole faith thing, where on earth have you been? There are some on here who use terrorism to put down Islam as a whole. You really need to pay more attention.

If you have nothing in common with Sour Mash why do you spend more time attacking me than him? As for the whole faith thing, where on earth have you been? There are some on here who use terrorism to put down Islam as a whole. You really need to pay more attention.

Making stuff up like your buddy Sour Mash I see. Feel free to quote where I have said people are not allowed to discuss the cause of these attacks without "discussing every other criminal act committed by a non Muslim..." What I am doing is pointing out that there is an obsession on here by some to paint Islam as some kind of evil world and they feel the need to identify every last act on a regular basis, as if we are not aware of them ourselves. Yes, we know, we read the news reports too. **** happens on a daily basis. Some of it is related to religious extremism. Most is not but apparently it is a super big deal for the Islamophobes, so much so that they have to post every last news report to back up there anti Islamic stance. You are no better. Somehow you are an expert on Islam because your wife has an uncle who is a Muslim and that makes your opinion of Islam more valid than mine. You also seem to have a problem with liberals. I'll say it again, the world would be a much better and safer place to live in if more people were liberal and tolerant. You should try it sometime. You might become less of an a**e.

For the last time, feel free to give an example of any anti-Semitic or anti armed forces views that I have expressed. You wont be able to because I have not made any. Why you are obsessed with making things up, only you will know. I guess it goes with the territory.

What I am saying is that why should a Muslim committed crime be worse than a non Muslim crime? We have two people on here in particular who seem to make it their daily business to look through the news reports and copy any containing Muslim related crimes on here. They are usually heralded with the line - just another day in (where ever). The truth of the matter is that you are more likely to be killed by a neighbour than a Muslim terrorist. Women are more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted by a non Muslim yet it is a big deal if a Muslim does the same thing simply because they are a Muslim. I think you will find that murder is murder and rape is rape under the law. There may be different driving forces but to the best of my knowledge, if a Muslim commits a crime it is no worse. If you think that is silly that is a matter for you.

And yesterday a non Muslim cut his partners throat in a car park in Chatham, but these things don't matter because some Muslim wasn't involved.

I wonder, do you and Batman ever take your heads out of your arses long enough to see that there is a lot more going on in the world than this? Just another day with an internet forum right wing bigot. How many murders and rapes do you skip past to find anti Muslim stories?

So then they should be easy to find. Just repeating rubbish ad infinitum does not make it true. I suggest you put up or shut up. We wouldn't want you labelled as a dissembler of the truth would we? Not along with being a racist. By the way, have you gotten round to condemning the act of terrorism at the Finsbury Park mosque yet?

So no examples then. It doesn't work for Trump so why do you think it will work for you? Or is it just some right wing extremist thing that you all use?

Shouldn't be too hard to find examples then. Let's see them.

No I haven't so no need to backtrack. Have you been up to the Bailey to support your mate Darren Osbourne?

Ok I'll bite. Where I have I supported anti-Semitism anywhere let alone in this country? Where have I ever said that British soldiers are on par with terrorists? Were have I ever said that mass rape and sexual assault are normal for a night out in Maidstone? The disturbed world is the world of the far right racist who feels the need to twist things to suit their own warped agenda. If there is one good thing about your extreme agenda, it is that everyone here here can see what an unpleasant individual you are. You condemn yourself every time you post. You stick with the Tommy Robinsons of this world. You are in good company.