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Mostly one way traffic. Did we string more than two passes together? Great result but how did we win that?

So Donald has made 9,014 false or misleading claims over 773 days. 12 a day. You have to admire the man’s consistency and application.

It will if they realise that they will be quickly caught, brought to justice and spend a long time behind bars. When I was younger you saw plenty of police out and about. Now you rarely see any. More police on the beat. More stop and search. Longer sentences for carrying knives and knife crime. Increasing the chances of being caught and increasing sentencing will do a lot more than employing a "Knife Tzar."

May misses the point once again. The lack of a proper decent police presence in the community means that there are those out there who think they can do things like this and get away scot free. The cuts to the Criminal Justice System thanks to the years of austerity have brought us to this. If it were just down to drugs and gangs that would be one thing, but it is not. We need a stronger, more robust CJS and these scumbags need to know that they will be caught and put away for a very long time.

If we had beaten plenty of other teams the table would look very different. Cardiff wasn’t our problem, our often indifferent form is.

But she seems to have you summed up and has managed to get hypo to make a tw at of himself too, so fair play to her!

So let’s just make an assumption that we weren’t seriously looking shall we? Always better to go with a negative if there is any doubt, especially if it has anything to do with the running of SFC. Seriously, why do people find the need to constantly run the club down? Probably just as well they don’t support Spurs, they would be suicidal this morning. Pretty much on every thread there are posters looking for excuses to slag off the owner/board and most of the time based on negative assumptions rather than facts. There is every chance that we would have eventually been in. Relegation scrap under Markus if he had lived longer. Just as well he passed before the pitch fork brigade set on him (although it hasn’t prevented the open season on his daughter).

So despite the usual suspects on here saying we didn’t try to sign anyone in January, according to his agent we were in for Almiron along with Newcastle and Arsenal.

Which is my point, so why have a pop at me?

You really are a little ray of sunshine aren’t you?

Why would I go off on one? When I was small I was spoon fed Christianity as the one and only religion. Fortunately my parents didn’t force me to stay in Sunday School when I said I didn’t want to go anymore but I, like many of my generation have been brainwashed from an early age. I know a few middle age born again Christians who have got back into the whole God thing when you would hope that they would be old enough to know better. The point is that we all have filters. You for example saw Pelle as crap footballer whereas most people who saw him play thought he was pretty good. Some people grow up with a religious background and pick up on the peaceful message and live their lives accordingly. Some hear a different message and go down a different path. As we have been trying to point out to the Islamophobes on here, Islam is no different to other religions in this respect. There are extreme factions in all religions and in most societies. Some people can see that these issues are a part of their own society and some, the Tommy Robinson Yaxley-Lennons of this world, see them as something separate who need to be removed from our island. In this particular instance this young woman grew up within a certain religion and it sounds very much like she was groomed and fed a distorted version of what her peers believed in. A bit like you sitting next to a kid at St Mary’s week after week saying see that big bloke with the greasy hair up front, he’s rubbish he is. A suseptical kid will eventually see it your way and grow up believing that Pelle is rubbish. She doesn’t sound terribly bright and seems to have accepted a number of things about ISIS without question. On beheadings she was told Islam was ok with it so that was fine. If you stripped citizenship from every thick, gullible person half of this forum would be stateless. You ask the question earlier was she a combatant? I don’t know where you got that suggestion from other than your own deep seated prejudice because from what I have read she was nothing more than a housewife. Maybe you know different? If she is guilty of any crime she needs to go through the normal process and be dealt with accordingly. If she hasn’t and wishes to return to her country and her family, reject extremism and embrace the values of our society, I would expect any half decent human being to be willing to give her a second chance. You provide me with evidence that she has been chopping people’s heads off and I will quite happily change my mind.

She is a British citizen because she meets the official criteria. Whatever crimes she is guilty of, she is guilty as a British citizen. Stripping her of her citizenship defies International Law. Her citizenship should not be the issue here. Her conduct should. I assume that most of us on this thread are British citizens. Whatever crimes we may commit, we remain as British citizens. It is no ones right to deny anyone their official heritage. This whole episode is an unecessary sideshow to what is the main problem, radicalisation and support for extremist factions. This person and her actions are very much our problem and we need to deal with it.

They don’t have to be “our fault” exactly but things don’t happen in a vacuum do they. There are cause and effects and, as we know, these issues are deep rooted. It also doesn’t have necessarily to do with guilt. What about responsibility or a basic sense of humanity? This young women was born and raised here. Her family are here. She is a product of her upbringing here. Whatever drove her to leave here and start another life in Syria, it come from whatever influences she received whilst living here. If she returns, she will have to face the consequences of the society in which she grew up and that is exactly the way it should be. Not passing the buck has nothing to do with Christian guilt and everything to do with taking responsibility for your own citizens.

Spot on Duckie. There are plenty of people who I wish were not British citizens. One is back in the news again today, Tommy Robinson Yaxley-Lennon. We don’t get to chose just because we don’t like them or what they have done but it is open season for racists and Islamophobes whenever something like this comes up. I don’t see the usual suspects queuing up to have the plentiful numbers of “white” “Christian” scumbags stripped of their nationality. She is a Bristish national. She should be allowed back into her country and should face the legal process if it is considered that she has broken any laws, just like any other British citizen.

Exactly. She is a British subject. Her new born son is a British subject. We can't just pretend that she is someone else's problem. Of course she should be allowed back in the country. If she is guilty of any criminal offences then she should go through the system like any other British subject. Her son should have the opportunity to grow up in a decent and humane society and at least could have that chance now unlike her other two children. She comes across as very gullible and easily led. Perhaps having to come back and face the music will help her realise what a huge error of judgement she has made and through the process become a better mother to her son? Perhaps not. Either way it is something that we need to deal with here. At the very least her sorry tale might deter others who think that throwing their lot in with the Jihadis is a good idea. As for the poster who thinks that she should be hanged, as far as we know at the moment the only crime she has committed is to travel on a false passport. Perhaps put your pitchfork away until we find out if she has done anything more than marry and have children with a member of ISIS?

I think that your protestations that you are not an Islamophobe can finally be put to bed and if it is true that your wife’s family are Muslim they must be so proud of your posting history on this forum.

But it is not our club it is his. Remind me again how many millions did Markus spend on players of his own money? How many news conferences did Markus give? We have always been a self sustaining club. That isn’t going to change any time soon. Last year the club was slagged off for buying for the sake of it, this year for not buying at all. The club made it clear that this January they would only buy if the right players(s) became available. By all account they didn’t. How is that the club’s fault? How many transfers were made in the Premiership in the last window? We know that the January window is difficult and we’re warned not to expect much, if anything, yet still the whinging goes on. The club got slated for letting players leave in the past yet other clubs are supposed to roll over and sell to us mid season just because we are the mighty Saints?

Nail on head!

Not unless he calls women “chicks” Duckie

We already have a centralist political party. It is a sign of the times though that they seem to have vanished when they really should be hoovering up votes. As with everything Brexit is casting its Nosferato like shadow over it. Every party is affected by the leave/stay factions. If one good thing comes out of Brexit it may be the realisation that our political system has to change. I won’t be holding my breath though. Clegg had a glorious opportunity to try and push through reforms but f cked it, and his Party up big time instead. As for this wussy independent group, they should all face a by election and let the people who originally voted for them have their say.

Sorted out the financial mess that Cortes left us in. Four consecutive top ten finishes. A cup final. European football. More success than her father achieved with the club. What a poor return for “zero investment.” If that doesn’t warrant a torrent of personal abuse I don’t know what does. Ok hypo, now start with the “yeah, buts.”

You have to wonder what someone’s weight has to do with anything. Also what Markus would make of the unpleasant abuse heaped onto his daughter. Criticism of the way someone runs the club is one thing, the personal abuse something else.

I beg to differ Duckie, but then you are stuck in a 70’s time warp where women are “chicks” and “birds” and cloggers could make a living in professional football. Fortunately the world has moved on and that is mostly no longer the case. By his own admission he was a clogger. 3 England B caps? They clearly had a look at him and thought “no thanks.” For the record, Vinnie Jones, another clogger, got 9 full Welsh caps. Would you have been happy to see Jim in a Saints shirt? However he performed for the likes of Brentford, Millwall and Rangers, my memories of him playing for us are not good ones.