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We also started to win matches away from home for the first time regularly under Burley including putting 6 past a decent Wolves side at their place. I will say again that at the point he left he was still the best manager in terms of points won per games including Bates and Lawrie Mac. I know he wasn't everyone's favourite but I didn't have a problem with him and we were unfortunate not to make the play offs finals. At the point he left he wasn't the only one to have lost the plot. He was having players sold from under him and the club wasn't being run particularly well. He wasn't the best manager we have ever had, but he certainly wasn't the worst IMHO. I do accept that his persistence in playing Germaine Wright was a bit odd though!

We didn't do too well the season before and I certainly wouldn't say we were anything like Manchester United in our circumstances. Yes we spent money but spending money is no guarantee of success. We had a decent side but lacked consistency. We were unlucky not to reach the play off finals. Getting into the play offs is an achievement no matter what your circumstances and it is something that Burley managed with 3 different clubs. It is a very tough division to get out of, as many "big" clubs have found out over the years.

Isnt that the point though, take someone and make them better? A player like Walcott took inspiration by watching Henri play and in training. Some players are naturals, some have ability but need others to help them get the most out of that ability.

You have to figure that coaches do make a difference, if not, why coach? If that is the case then I am sure every club you go to will have success stories as well as failures. How much of it is down to coaching and how much of it is down to maturing? I remember Mick Channon saying that Peter Osgood was the most gifted young player he had seen. Once he grew up and his body changed he wasn't as good. Bale on the other hand showed great promise as a youngster and really thrived as he grew. Or was that down to Arry's brilliant coaching?

Not a great loss to broadcasting, but fair play to him for at least coming out and accusing the Beeb of whitewash and cover ups.

Ah, the joys of the internet! Why did you leave out Frys contributions though? Him and Hypo are like herpes. Once you get them you've got them for life!

So about Yoshida's level then? Seriously, I thought he had improved.

Perhaps they should do away with this long drawn out farce of a circus and just have one big gunfight - last one left standing becomes President.

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You could probably add Martina to this list as many here had written him off as a pub footballer when he first joined us but he has shown he can do a job since.

Or Chambers

Perhaps you ought to ask Fry to drop it? Is it really such a big deal?

And we pay a fiver for this

Oh dear....................

Ok so lets pretend we are grown ups shall we? Putting the way that Batman made his point to one side - are we saying that getting to the play offs and getting the highest points per game ratio at the time is "shyte" ?

Well apparently it is. But also it is more important to have a row about what was said against what was meant. I think it is called a diversion.

Do you know what? I did. And do you know what. Nowhere does it say "He was shyte at Southampton." On my PC it says "He was shyte...." Why is this such a big deal for you? You do get carried away by the least important things.

What have I made up? You say quite clearly "He was shyte" in your second sentence. I haven't worked out how to doctor other peoples posts so it was what you typed. By the way, did you know that at the point that he left, he had the best points per game ratio of any of our post war managers, including Bates and McMenemy?

If you read it again you will see that he didn't say he was shyte at Southampton. He said he was shyte. I haven't hi jacked anything I have just responded to what Batman said. You seem to want to make a big deal about it. Why is that? Serious stuff this internet isn't it?

I am not being weird. I have just responded to your point. If you want the last word, go ahead.

I was responding to this post from Batman in which he says that Burley "was shyte." If you want to narrow it down to his time at Southampton then in his one full season as manager he took us to the play offs. If you and Batman think that was "shyte" sobeit.

Here you go Batman. "He was shyte..."

Batman said he was shyte. I pointed out that he wasn't, or at least not shyte at ever club he managed. HTH.

No, you said he was shyte.

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