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Koeman wins that one easily.

LOL, bizarre!

Well done. It must make you day. As you have pointed out, I should have said he had a 5% worse win ratio. I am such a terrible person.

It was tongue in cheek but feel free to be a ***t as usual.

They don't do they! I could never work out why. I know its an easy journey by train from Croydon but don't know why the rivalry. Anyone know?

Crystal Palace is about the same distance from Brighton as Southampton is from Bournemouth. Does that mean that Palace v Brighton is a derby game?

Is there a specific distance that determines whether a game is a derby or not? And do you have to be in the same county?

I thought we were talking about whether he was a shyte manager for us or not? I am not sure what the old men managing pub teams have to do with anything. I think that stats about Saints managers are relevant though. I would say that it is important for a manager to win games, wouldn't you? And if you win a lot of games it means that you are quite good doesn't it? If you were to define the top six Saints managers purely by the win per games ratio then they would be Adkins, Pardew, Koeman, Hoddle, Burley and McMenemy. But I am guessing that you would say at least one of that number was shyte so lets not bother with this anymore eh?

Yeah, a bit like you and Pelle. Jeez.

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Herpes returns The context isn't difficult to work out, even for someone like you.

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I wasn't a big fan of Pearson's and recall the football was poor even though he did what he needed to do. In hindsight it would have been better to stick with him longer though.

Or maybe others just did things better? How much have Leicester spent compared to the Big Four? How much have Citeh spent on trying to be the biggest club in Europe? Out of 26 different managers since Ted Bates only Glenn Hoddle, Alan Pardew, Nigel Adkins and Ron K have a better win ratio. Burley had a better win ratio than Pochettino. Still, we will never agree so time to move on.

It seems that his only "crime" is to say he didn't have a meeting that BBC says he did. Seems are strange reason to sack someone. Apparently he has been completely cleared of any involvement with the girl who sadly took her own life.

I am not a Blackburn fan but it does look to me that he has been totally stitched up. No other views?

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If I was a manager I wouldn't think that a 42% win ratio was too shabby.

Nigel Pearson lost 5% more of his games than Harry Redknapp did. Are you saying that if the periods of their tenure had been changed Pearson would have kept us up?

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if.

Going off at a bit of a tangent here but I think it is interesting to compare the various managers stats over the years as those we think of as good were sometimes not quite so good and those we think of as shyte sometimes not so bad. My original table was based on points won against matches played, this is is slightly different in that it just gives a win % and ignores drawn games, but it isn't far off the other table:- Bates 39.2%, McMenemy 41.8%, Nicholl 34.1%, Branfoot 28.9%, Ball 32.8%, Merrington 31.3%, Souness 29.2%, Jones 32.7%, Hoddle 42.3%, Gray 31.6%, Strachan 35.5%, Wigley 0%, Sturrock 38.5%, Wigley 17.7%, Redknapp 26.5%, Bassett & Wise 33.3%, Burley 41.3%, Gorman & Dodd 16.7%, Pearson 21.4%, Poortvliet 25%, Wotte 22.2%, Pardew 53.1%, Wilkins 0%, Adkins 54%, Pochettino 38.3%, Koeman 45.7%. It will be pointed out that managers managed in different divisions but they can only play what is in front of them and their squads would reflect the divisions they played in. To keep this on track I would say that only Pochettino has gone on to improve his performance with another club after us.

I think it is a bit harsh to lay the blame of administration with Burley unless you can prove that the wages and signing on fees were down to him and not the Board. Also he only had one full season with us in which we made the play offs, so I am not sure how he failed. When he left we were as close to the play offs as we were the relegation zone but I agree that had he stayed we probably would have ended up still mid table. I do accept that I am in the minority when it comes down to not thinking Burley was shyte.

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