sadoldgit

Brand is clearly "marmite" but I agree, he has an audience. I struggle with the whole narcissistic man-child persona thing he has going on but I guess it works for the ladies!

There is always an excuse with Poch. Poor referring. Small pitch. Weak mentality etc.

Another excellent result. Not sure we would have won that one under Poch? This season just gets better and better.

Not very exciting I'm afraid, but back in the 90s I used to post on something called the SaintsList. It was a bit like this (with the attendant meltdowns and ***** fights) only it worked by email rather than on the internet. When we weren't slagging off Rupert Lowe (it was around the time of the reverse take over and even at the beginning he was a hate figure) we used to wax lyrical about the good old days with Big Ron etc. I was of course much younger then but we often used to refer to ourselves (ironically) as sad old gits when the nostalgia crept in. When I found this place and needed a name Sad Old Git seemed perfect - not least because now I am definitely a SOG. There are a few of us remnants still here - Duncan, Minty, Mike, Throbber. All of us much sadder, older and not so wiser!

Spot on.

I don't think it works like that though. I doubt if many players stay with a club because they feel loved by the fans. Jay has yet to sign the new contract and looks to be keeping his options open. Can't blame him for that but when he comes to make a decision about his future wages and career progression will be far about Saints fans.

Wibble

Did a brilliant job for us and I hope he gets a decent job elsewhere because he is better than Reading.

One of several players we signed that were good elsewhere and pants for us.

No one else has bothered to respond in the way you have and you have spent more time on a non issue than any reasonable person would do. Frankly I have better things to do with my life than to play internet tennis with you over this so let us just both agree that there will be an appeal and move on.

You really are a strange little chap arent't you? I dont understand why you are getting your knickers in a twist over this. I'll help you out. When I saw the interviews with the parents immediately after the verdict and the sentencing they (especially the mother) seemed broken by the whole experience and (especially after the sentencing) said they we glad is was finally over. To me this does not sound like a couple who wanted to go through the whole circus again. There was certainly no talk of wanting an appeal and they just seemed like that was it. That is why, to me, I said it was interesting that there was now going to be an appeal. Because I thought they had already spoken to their layers and said this is it please. Nothing more sinister than that. Perhaps they (by they I mean the prosecution team) but that did not come across in the interviews with the Mum and Dad who seemed relieved that it was over. That is why I was surprised that there is an appeal. I hope this helps you? I do worry that you are getting yourself worked up unnecessarily. Oh and by the way, irrespective of what nationality the justice system is, dont you think it would be a basic requirement that the prosecution team would talk to the family involved about any decision to appeal?

I am not making stuff up either mate. Did you see and hear what the parents said after the sentence? I'll share this with you. In the British legal system it would not be "obvious" that there would be an appeal. These trials cost an awful lot of money and there would be a great deal of discussion about whether an appeal is a) likely to succeed and b) in the public interest before a decision was made about an appeal.

Not one of life's happy bunnies are you mate. Whatever. You clearly know a great deal about the South African legal system so I defer to your superior knowledge.

Personally I am delighted that the verdict is being challenged by the way.

I am saying that if the family say they are satisfied with the verdict and sentence and don't feel they can go through with any more of this, the prosecutors need to take that on board. That seemed to be their position after the sentence but they may well have changed their minds after discussing the situation with the prosecution team.

I'd say it has a great deal to do with the family. The prosecution would not just go ahead and appeal without consulting the family.

I said it was interesting because the mother and father both seemed to be done with it all. Clearly they have changed their minds. If the verdict is overturned and they get a successful murder verdict the sentence will have to change. If they are not successful with the verdict appeal then the sentence will come under review.

Interesting that the prosecution are going to appeal against both the verdict and the sentence.

I dont care about any of this. He comes across like some jumped up 6th form student on speed and I find him hugely irritating. The media are obsessed by people like Brand because they are good copy and divide opinion. It is a shame they cant pick people who are less controversial and up their own backsides more intelligent and personable. Julie Burchill is another media whore who has made a whole career about being "outspoken" and "controversial." It is not big and it is not clever.

I'd picked up on the packed bag earlier. It looked like there could well have been a big argument between them and she was going to leave that night. I think she was supposed to have eaten something not long before she was shot too which would indicate that she had been up for a while.

Nice to know he is working for and supporting me.

So he is a "comedian and an entertainer." Perhaps he should stick to that?

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Given that Stalker says that he thinks the McCanns and the rest of the Tapas bunch are hiding something I dont really see what your point is? I am gone because I am sick and tired of you and your pathetic attempt to make yourself feel better by attacking others. You show clear traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I was married to someone with NPD and have no desire to waste any more time in providing them with the attention they crave. I have found a forum elsewhere where people discuss the McCann disapperance and guess what, there is real debate and no belittling of other posters. It wont appeal to you C B Fry because you know everything and are always right. They also don't tolerate snide comments and digs so you are way better off here. Minty is right. This thread is a sad waste of time and space.

Ah now I get why you are so sympathetic towards the McCanns - it is the narcissist thing! Makes sense. Okay C B Fry, I have had it with your patronising, puerile, aggressive posts and I am sure anyone reading this thread is done with the constant bickering, so I'll leave you to it for now. See if you can find someone else to pick on.