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Horrifically overspent? Unlike you to make a sweeping statement Delldays! Long and Cole have barely kicked a ball this season and already you have decided who the better player for us will be? This is why you get so much stick here mate. At no point did I say we should dismiss opinions. I just pointed out that you made a statement that wasnt supported by the stats (which clearly show that Baines was more effective). People can criticise RK all they want. I think they should wait a while but hey, you only get 5 minutes on an internet forum before dsome cyber jokey thinks they have you measured up. Opinions are like ars*holes, everybod has one. The simple fact is that having said Shaw was the best left back in the country (not proven) then you went on to say that you thought that Baines was better last season and threw your dummy out of the pram when I found stats backing your opinion up. You just want to come on for an arguement dont you?

Dont worry, she will probably turn out to be a fat old munter in years to come!

Another day another negative thread started by our resident little ray of sunshine.

I am not saying anything. I am just telling you what the stats say and what the consensus of what I have found on the Internet says about the best left back in the Premiership. It would appear that going by the stats Baines was better than Shaw. You initially said that Shaw was the best left back. The stats say not. If the stats say that Cole was better than Long last season then that's fine by me.

One more stat before I call it day. PPI points. Baines 542. Evra 487. Shaw 469. Full backs are expected not just to defend nowdays but also to provide more attacking options and that is where Shaw falls down at the moment and why, in unbiased terms, her wasnt the best left back in the Premiership last season.

No, let us just gather more evidence other than your opinion and then make a judgement shall we?

This is your exact quote Delldays.

Delldays quote was that Luke Shaw was the best left back in the Premiership last season. I am struggling to find much evidence of that (as good as Luke clearly was).

PremierLeague.com users team for last season - left back Leighton Baines

He is a pro. Pro Soccer Talk Best Defenders of last season. No 5 Leighton Baines No 8 Luke Shaw

Joey Barton (professional footballer). "I dont think any left back really stood out" but chose Leighton Baines for his best Premiership side of last season.

FourFourTwo - best full back of the year last season - Leighton Baines

Spot on for a change Delldays

Caught Offside's best 20 players in the Premiership Season 2012/13. Best left back (at no 12) Leighton Baines. England Team starting left back - Leighton Baines.

Not according to the fantasy football teams he wasnt.

Really?

Probably Throbber. If it wasnt the track from Fragile - The Fish - it could well have been Amazing Grace. Although I think he often put both of them together. He gets a great sound from the Rickenbacker. Him and Entwhistle probably the best bass players I have seen.

Yes they were. It is one thing us having a pop at each other - but having a go at someone who can't defend herself and the nature of some comments - well out of order.