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It is C O R T E S E

Let's see, we sign a "Brazilian" midfielder because we all know that anyone born in Brazil is naturally a football genious. So next it will be an "Italian" manager because as we all know anyone born in Italy is naturally gifted in football management.

Anything is possible. For the first time we have sacked a manager who has done well. God knows what stunt this CEO will pull next.

What all 2 league games not good enough? If we had continued in those next games the way we did against Rovers no problem and no tweeking needed.

Sorry to see him go. The wrong person has left the club.

Money to squander? I thought most of his signing had been excellent to reasonable and he has not spent a fortune either.

I can. I have known many CEOs/Senior Execs who behave like children if they don't get what they want when they want it.

Not long out of bed but still in a state of shock. The timing sucks. To echo others, I wish good luck to Pardew for the future. He can certainly manage at a higher level than League 1 no matter what the CEO thinks. As for Cortese, he strikes me as a person who throws his dummy out of the pram if he doesn't get what he wants when he wants it. He also already made us look silly with the photo thing, now this. I am also wondering whether Markus was on board with this decision? If so, perhaps he was the kindly old boy we thought, if not then Cortese has acted with indecent haste so soon after his funeral. For some time I have been worried that Cortese will turn out to be worse for us than Lowe ever was. His methods may well turn out to be successful, but is success at any price worth having? Say, the soul of the club?

Three league games played. A good performance against a Premiership club and a terrific away win. Back on track so lets sack the manager. And why should we assume future funding is secure. The only thing we can take from this is that we have another CEO who believes in the revolving door philosophy. I think we can also take from this that Cortese was embarrassed by the support given to Pardew at the end oflast season and backed off sacking him then. But with the owner still fresh in his grave and all eyes elsewhere after a good win, a Night of the Long Knives and he is sorted. We may end up with a better manager. We may or may not get promoted. But this leaves a very sour taste in the mouth.

Well it look sas though Duncan was right. Can't say I am surprised but ceratinly the timing is crazy and this is another in an ever growing long line of stpide decsions by Cortese. I used to say that you didn't have to be a "football man" to run a football club. I was wrong. You do need to understand who sport works. Cortese, seemingly, does not know and does not care. His eye is permanently on the bottom line, and that does not mean just money. Pardew showed last season that he could do this job. Without the minus 10 we would have been in the play offs and a good bet to win them. He won us a cup and finally gave this club something to cheer about. If we win our game in hand we are straight up there in the play off spots. So let's sack the manager and most of his team. Defies belief. Cortese may well have a cunning plan and may well succeed in getting us back to the Premiership in 5 years. But if he also manages to turn us into one of the most hated and disrespected clubs in the country in the process, I would rather stay where we are thanks.

I don't think that he "focusses" on the cups, he said he wanted both. As for Lowe, not true until the Dutch experiment when we had to save cash anyway - otherwise he would have kept Wigley and Grey.

I really don't care where we were at the start, it is where we are at the finish that matters.

This is a marathon not a sprint. The papers didn't used to print league tables until 6 games had been played because that is when a more reasonable picture starts to emerge. Those teams out in front in the first couple of weeks can and often do fall away. The trouble here is that the season hinges on the last game, every game. It is one thing to talk about the game just played, another to write of a player, manager, whatever because of a couple of less than great results. There are some that don't like Pardew and will take every dropped point as another nail in his coffin and those people are going to take the joy out of the season for many. There is one poster who is already sharpening his knife for the next home game. We need to move past this blame game and stop heaping piles of negativity on all and sundry whenever there is a minor setback.

It is indeed, and if you run out after 2 league games perhaps you have some issues! If we win our game in hand we are right up in the play off spots after 4 games yet how much time and effort has been spent on the woe is me the season is all over already threads?

JUst as the two previous league games have been built on Alpy. It is an ongoing process as I am sure you realise. Pardew will know that just as we weren't the worst team in the league after the first two games we are not the best now. There is a long lomg way to go and that is why the threads slagging off Pardew and talking about ddom and gloom after TWO league matches were way too previous. As Pardew rightly says, lets see where we are after 10 league matches before we start to judge the seasons progress.

Chelsea have had a huge advantage and were supposed to be Kings of Europe by now. Unfortunately you have to earn it, you can't buy it.

Alps were are no more world beaters today than we were the worst team in the world yesterday. But can't you at least take some pleasure from todays result without looking forward with doom and gloom to the next home game? We were talking earlier about the pressure being off away from home. Today validated that to some extent but hopefully the strong win will add some confidence.

Huge, medium or small, we still have to win a lot of football matches just like the other clubs.

Indeed, which puts a lot of the recent negative threads into context. Still it is good to get the first win under our belt. The season starts here.

I agree MIke, it should be shared around.

One season, but on the whole I think we had better results at The Dell than we have at St Marys. I have only seen one home defeat and that was at St Marys. I know that doesn't prove anything but I don't think that SM has ever been a fortress in the way The Dell usually was.

I am not saying that they don't get flak, but the discussion now immediately revolves around the manager whereas years back it was the players first and foremost.

Because it is easier to sack a manager than a whole team perhaps? Ferguson was close to the sack before he turned things around. Burley did a great job at Ipswich and did well at Herts.

At which point did the responsibility for poor results move from the players to the manager? When I started chatting about football online most of the trafic was about the players and their performances. Gradually now all fingers seem to point at the manager when results are poor. I accept that the manager buys the players, decides tactics etc, but at the point when the team crosses the white line it is down to them. We were relegated from the Premiership with many players who still play in the Premiership. We had a strong squad last season and this yet most of the flak heads the way of the manager. Perhaps it is time to move the forensic dissecting back to the people who carry the expectation of the fans on their shoulders: the players? Chances have been made and missed. Pardew's fault or the players? Soft goals conceded, same question.

We are talking about the stick he has had about transfers/lack of transfers all this summer.