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The negative brigade might not be killing the club, but they aren't helping the situation either. By all accounts we deserved something out of yesterday's game and the crowd were supportive, but I come on here to read about that and just find the usual supsects on their usual witch hunt. Not one of the people who join this witch club have a club how to run a football club, but they would have us belive that they know best. I am not happy about the situation either, but I appreciate that times are hard and that we have got to battle through this. We have some decent payers and there is no reason why we can't stay up if everyone pulls together. Sadly many people will not be happy until the club actually falls apart (I can't believe that some postes on here actually wanted us to lose yesterday - go figure).

Storm in a thimble. Are we talking about the same Harry Redkanpp who was given £6m to spend to keep us up and who blew in on the likes of Davenport, Bernard and his crocked son? Are we talking about th same Harry Redknapp who threw too many kids into one game to make a point and then publically humiliated them when they lost? Are we talking about he same Harry Redknapp who, when he couldn't sigh Morrison threw his toys out of the prma and said he wouldn't bother looking for another striker? If Lowe has such an all powerful force at St Mary's how come Redknapp called the shots? I also recall the cyber football managers on here telling all and sundry that the old journeyman pros should be got rid of and the the "kids" could do no worse!!! One final thing, let's remember that the "kids" at the time included the likes of Walcott and Bale, Mills and Blackstock. How many of those getting all pious on this thread threw their toys out of the pram when those players left? Bassett has said quite clearly that Redknapp picked the teams, so what is the problem. We got relegated and didn't set the world alight in the following season under Redknapp. What should the people running the club do? Nothing? Don't you think they are entitled to express opinions? If Redkapp had wanted more support he had Woodward to call on (someone who knows something about winning) but we were told that Woodward was not allowed anywhwre near the first team squad. In any business, when things are not going well, don't you pool your resources and look for new ways forward? Not if you're Harry Redknapp (the man who left his "spiritual home" the minute he could see the cash drying up). Still let the witch hunt continue, the masses always feel better when they have people to blame and burn.

There are many different ways to support the club. Just because I don't go to many matches does not make me a hypocrite. I do practice what I preach. I do not come on here and slag off managers or board members ad infinitum. I do not slag off the players. I do not come on here calling for all and sundry to be sacked. I am postive about the club and have supported them in my own way (yes, including going to matches) since 1966. If that makes me a hypocrite in your book I suggest that it is you who has the problem, not I. If you had botherd to read my previous posts I have been saying for some time that any idiot can "support" a club when it is doing well in the Prem. The time for true "support" comes when things are not going well. Do you think people who used to go regualarly but don't know now because of Lowe are helping matters? If it is true that the players do not like to go out on the town because they don't want to face abuse, do you think that helps? Instead of having a pop at me, think about the negative people involved with SFC and what affect they are having on the club.

What on earth are you talking about??? Just because I don't go to many matches (and I am not going to justify myself to you) I can't have an opinion??? I have said before that both the England side and SFC seem to have an issue about playing at home. Both JP and David have made the point about playing at home. I don't think it is a bricks and mortar thing, I think they are talking about the pressure of playing in front of their fans, don't you? I don't have to go to every match to have an opinion about this. How bizarre. Are you Alpine is disguise?

I actually prefer the tougher games as I think we have the ability to raise our game. It is still a sharp learining curve for JP and the team but I do think that we need to give the new regime a lot more time. Yes we did have to score 3 last week and we did it.

Does that mean that I can't have an opinion? Fine, I'll go and do some Christmas shopping for the kids and leave the rest of you who are entitled to an opinion to sort it out amongst yourselves.

I also recall hearing many people say that the appointment of Strachan was ahuge mistake when it was announced. The club never said that this would work overnight and I believe that Wilde said we were looking at a three year plan.

No I will not, but I would rather we existed. You make finding someone to part with x millions pounds like it is an every day occurance. The Wilde Bunch found it a doddle too didn't they?

Ah, another genius in hindsight, or is this your nephew's philosophy? Some avenues closed? I would say many avenues were closed. I am not saying this was the only way forward but there was no guarentee that any other option would have worked any better. Long terms plans are just that. Just because it is not working now does not mean to say that it will not do so in two or three seasons time.

Steve, or is it Steve's nephew, please don't tell me that you never sat through dross when we were in the top flight. One of the most boring games of football I sat saw was a 0-0 draw with Fulham. You know what, we used to have an Empire and be one of the most powerful nations on earth, but are not any more. Things change. We are now a poor CCC side who may develop into a decent CCC side in future all being well. If you want to come on here and slag of the manager, sorry Head Coach, and Board that's fine. It might make you feel better, but it is not actually going to change anything is it? The board of SFC have a plan, it may work it might not, but it is a long term plan and just because it is not working now, that doesn't mean to say that it will not work long term.

So then, if the players are feeling pressure about playing home home, that is all in their head is it?

Yep, you and your nephew would soon put things right wouldn't you Steve, because as we know running a football club is so easy. I bet everyone at Charlton and Norwich are glad they don't have JP or Lowe their clubs. Apologist? No mate, just a realist. Please tell me, how many "successful" managers are there in the football league?

Well I don't go out on the town with the players so I don't know if they get stick or not as have been inferred but I am sure you and your nephew will put me right on that score. Ah, back to the average thing in the top flight thing again. Perhaps yur nephew could explain to you that we didn't actually win very much when we were in the top flight and usually finished nearer the bottom than the top...isn't that average? As for now, I would say that we are a below average CCC side along with several other clubs who used to be be average Prem sides. Still, if you were to take over here and your nephew at Norwich or Charlton I am sure that with your superior skills at running football clubs the futuneswould soon be on the rise. (feel free to add lots of rolley eyes things here, I am sure your nephew likes them LOL)

Ignoring the usual trite comment about Lowe Luvvies, I don't think that anybody is blaming the fans for everything.

Ever since we left The Dell our home form has not been that brilliant and a number of managers have struggled to turn that around.

When managers do change things they are damned, when they don't they are damned. It worked like week and by all accounts the changes made yesterday did improve matters..but I do agree that we do need to get a settled side out there.

I think I have discovered where we went wrong, we should have brought you in as our Director of Football and all now would be well.

That may be so, but it doesn't deal with the fact that both the manager and the goalkeeper feel that the team feels more pressure at home. As I have said before, it is the same with the England team, and you can't tell me that they are not as skillful as other sides.

LOwe may not be the best businessman in the world, but then neither were the people who followed him here. Given ou financial circumstanes nowdays, it hard to see how anyone else could do anything else but cut costs across the board. YEs, it could mean relegation, but isn;t that better than obliteration?

I don't know if there is any evidence, but if it is being talked about you have to wonder why. It is only natural when things are going bad that people get frustrated. Thing is, despite everything we have to try and be postive and work through this period. The players do not perform at home, that much is evident, for whatever reason. That needs to change if we are to stay up and for that to happen the players must feel that they have the support of the crowd. Whatever people feel about Lowe and Wilde, they should get behind the guys who pull on the shirts every week. They are what it is all about, not the people who run the club.

But we have evidence that we play better away than at home. Why would Jan or Davis say such things if there was nothing in it?

I don't doubt it Nick, my point was that we are better of with positive support (no matter what size) than negative support.

Davis has also said that he thinks that the pressure is getting to the kids at home. If we are to progress this has to stop. Why anyone would want to abuse a player when he is out and about is beyond me. If the people that do that think it helps God help us all.

Either could go down to be honest, which is hardly a resounding result for SISU is it?

It is the same with the England team. I have been saying this for a while now, it is no coincidence that our home form is poor. The team need support, it is as simple as that. Given the choice between 30,000 supporters who get behind the team and 14,000 who don't, what do you think would produce be best results?