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LOL, nice one. But Alpine will never back track on his views about Burley. In his world things were much better when we were nearly relegated after Burley left and making the play offs was pure luck.

That Alpine finds an Austrian club to support. That we get through this season without being relegated and going into administration and that we get stronger from the experiences this season and move forward next season.

They have Woolworths in Austria too?

Last year all the cyber jockeys on here were saying give the kids a game, they can't do any worse. LOL We struggled last season with an experienced manager and experienced players and stayed up on th elast day of the season. Did anyone really think this season would be any better with a new set up and reliance on youth? This isn't going to work overnight. It might not work at all. But if they have put a three year plan in place then we will only know how successful it has been after three years. As fo being "wrong" Alpine. If you play black at roulette every spin you will be "right" on occasions. You come on every day and are negative every day and, with the nature of clubs like SFC you will be "right" by default on occasions. I don't recall anyone with any semblance of intelligence (including anyone at the club) saying we were going to set the league alight this season, so how exactly were people "wrong"?

How can you speak for everyone? I know plenty of Saints fans who, although they are unhappy with the situation, think that the current board are the only people around at the moment who can deal with the current situation and spend most of their time talking about the team rather than the Boardroom.

Here, here. When you read things like the above (Lowe laughing at the fans?) it does make you wonder what goes through people's heads.

Nigel Pearson is doing well with Leicester so fair play to him. He didn't do so well with us last season but did just enough to keep us up. Somehow that translates to he would have done better this season with the same resources as JP for many fans. There is no guarantee that would have happened. Same with Redknapp. Has success with Portsmouth but failed horribly here. Strachan faailed horribly at Coventry but turned his career around with us. McMemeny had his best times here but is reviled by Sunderland fans and achieved nothing of note after he left us. Yes Leicester would beat us because they are full of confidence and flying high. I expect they would still beat us if Pearson was here and not there.

No it is not going to happen because most people still put their team before boardroom politics.... thank goodness. All, fans get disgruntled when their team is not winning matches but fans do not have any idea how to run a football club and nail their colours to anyone who tells them what they want to hear. Remember the Wilde fiasco and off the the cyber warriors on here who swallowed his bullsh*t hook line and sinker? Despite our league position, Lowe and Cowen have a job to do re the finances in order to tey and keep this club afloat. Sometimes people need to look at the bigger picture and put their personal issues aside. If Lowe and Cowen weren't doing it someone esle who have to keep a tight hold on the purse strings. I don't think thjat either Wilde and his mates or Crouch showed they could do that did they?

A lot of people thought that employing Strachan was a stupid idea. These things only play out in hindsight and I still see the logic behind the decision of bringing in JP and Wotte with the finances being as they are. If it is a three year plan, perhaps we can only properly judge it after three years? No one said we were going to set the wordl alight immediately and if we had won two or three more matches and scored a few more goals then I wouldn't have expected much more this season.

I would think it highly unlikely that he would come back as manager but then anything is possible, right? I would think it highly unlikely he would come back in any capacity right now with cash being so tight. I still think it was a lost opportinity when we let him go. Not as a future manager but as someone who worked with the manager and the club as a whole to get the best out of our set up. Still, we are where we are and we can speculate all day long, but I can't see anything changing anytime soon unless we continue to lose matches at the current rate...which can't go on, can it???

If it is a problem supporting your team when they are struggling then why bother in the first place? Take the easy option and support one of the big teams. Sorted! I started supporting Saints in 1966 which was a good time to start. Promotion and England winning the World Cup. It has been up and down since then (more downs than ups if truth be told) but that is part and parcel of supporting a club like SFC. So the last two seasons have seen the club at the lowest league position in all the time I have supported the team. I am not going to stop now just because things are cr*p but if people want to bail that is their right.

I think there was only one more game that night, a prem game, and I don't believe that either team played on Saturday. Still Steve, as ever, if it doesn't fit with your agenda have a pop and carry on....

Easter was a one off. Cup competions are one offs. The CCC teams play an awful of of midweek games compared to a few years back. Go and watch that film of the 1966 final again and see how many players are strolling aroung the pitch with their hands on their hips having a breather. Premiership clubs have much bigger squads now because they can't get 13 players through one season.

A couple of bew players would help but it is hard to see that happening unless we can ship others out. Sadly it will probably have to come from within, which is why I am saying there needs to be a change of attitude by many who see that the current regime are only here to destroy the club. Like him or loathe him, we are stuck with Lowe right now and if we do not support the club as a whole, the infighting will tear the club apart. Churchill made an alliance with Stalin for a greater good, we need to get through this season in one piece and worry about the Chairman in the close season. Otherwise we shall certainly still be *****ing over Lowe whilst in the third tier.

Oh dear, here we go again. Do Premiership teams play on Saturday then on SKY the following Monday night??? No we are not the only team to have to do this this time but we were when we played Palace a few weeks ago. When you are down the bottom and struggling with a young and inexperienced side do you think it is helpful having to play two games in two days?? Still you are always up for a pop Steve and never disappoint do you? I am sure you can remember the good old days when teams had at least three days rest between games?

There is so much to be said for a winning and tough mentality. We don't have that yet and it is hard to see where it is going to come from. What price a Jimmy Case right now?

It wan't that long ago that Charlton were being held up here as a model for us. Just goes to show how hard it is to keep things going for clubs of our size..no matter who the manager or Chairman are!

We are not talking about park football here. I used to play Saturday afternoons and Sunday mornings but expecting people to play at this level twice within a couple of days is a bit different. There is the mental tiredness as well as the physical aspect. In the good old days of the 60's and 70's player could have a breather but the game is played at such a fast pace now that you cannot switch off for a second (apart from our defence of course!!!)

They are only human. The pressure must be getting to them and the confidence not so much ebbing way as pouring away. Charlton are another club going through the same stuff and they were riding a lot higher than us until recently. It happens to teams every year and it is happening to us right now. If we had picked up a couple of wins before the Palace game who knows, things might be different now. Lose several games on the trot and fear and doubt creep in, people lose their heads and rows break out. That is exactly why people need to pull together now and regroup and support each other rather than point fingers and lay blame. But we are so much better at the latter.

Duncan, you say returning to an old job or relationship often ends in tears but seem to be backing a group of people (including one with a bigger ego than Lowe's) to return? Those same people also made a pig's ear of running this club. Apparently you stood up in the meeting and asked Lowe about the past rather about what his plans are to keep us in the CCC and for the foreseeable future? Why? The past is dead and gone, the only thing that matters now is getting out of our current mess. Crouch was no better than anyone else we have had at the club in recent years, in fcat he was probably worse in many ways. You also whet people's appetite's with more tales of takeovers and Shearer??? You came on here and said that you were 99% certain that Pearson was staying. Didn't quite pan out did it? People listen to you because you have a long standing assosiation with the club and because you have a certain cult status after your well publicised phone call with Lowe. Perhaps you should be more careful about what you post? We are now going to have weeks of speculation about another alleged takeover and new manager...

Not all of us.........only Alpine and Fitzhugh Fella!

Not all of us.........only Alpine and Fitzhugh Fella!

According to the AGM JP is responsible for picking the teams and the tactics. Wouldn't it make sense for him to take responsibility for the poor results as well?

According to the AGM JP is responsible for picking the teams and the tactics. Wouldn't it make sense for him to take responsibility for the poor results as well?

I find the whole thing incredibly sad. Like a bunch of kids squabbling in a schoolyard. McMemeny was a legend for what he achieved at SFC as a manager but his behaviour is every bit as pompous and unsavoury as Lowe's now. In fact I would say he has the bigger out of control ego. Crouch is another who neds to look at himself. Wilde probably had the best idea and kept well out of it! As for the "Usual Suspects" from the floor...they seem hellbent on living in the past. Really, does it matter who set up the academy, or about a picture or whether Lowe takes repsonsibility for what happened several years ago now? Someone should explain to Lawrie's wife that that picture was taken over 30 years ago - what is happening now is more important. I expect the "Usual Suspects" all applauded her - what the ****? What has that got to do with SFC and our troubles in 2008? There are two things that are of total importance right now - financial stability and winning some games. Lobbing coins and wittering on about an old photograph might warm the hearts of those who are so hell bent on their agendas re Lowe that that that is as far as they can see, but as he said, he isn;t going anywhere anytime soon... As for certain people saying that Lowe (or anyone esle for that matter) does not have a right to be at the club - what arrogance. Like him or not, like anyone or not, that have as much right to be here as the people putting the questions. What makes me laugh is that the people who prattle on about diversiveness are just as guilty - if not more so - of causing the diversity! Everyone, I mean everyone, needs to grow up and pull together for the sake of the future of SFC. Lowe is right about one thing if nothing else, the team needs total support, whoever is playing.