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Whilst it is poor form to send someone to look at training against EFL rules, I would suggest that it is even poorer form to demand that a team that have beaten you over two games fair and square on the pitch, get thrown out of the competition. Apart from the pathetic desperation, where is the precedent for such a relatively minor indiscretion? The hearing hasn’t even taken place yet so this is clearly an attempt to influence the outcome. Several steps on from “poor form” I would suggest.

Not sure about the fitness thing. You have plan A if he is not fit and plan B if he is and implement either when the team is announced an hour before kick off. You see all kinds of analysis and instructions given to subs and even players during the game. I’m sure there is enough flexibility in the process to deal with all playing members of the opposition. It just seems odd to send someone along just to see is one player is “on the grass.”

Also, if it is such a big deal, why isn’t it banned in the EPL too?

Exactly. It has been blown up out of all proportion. It is one thing to break into the manager’s office and photocopy all of the dossiers, download the vids or whatever. But from what we have been privy to so far amounts to something less than a storm in a tea cup. It just goes to show how quick and effective social media is in whipping up public opinion. For some time now actual facts haven’t mattered. Give the mob a reason to get their pitchforks out and they will happily do so. The problem now is that the “mob” has grown from a few hundred in a town square to the whole country and beyond thanks to technology. There will be people in Mongolia reading about it, looking at picture of THB’s “bins” celebration and calling us cheating bastards. Whatever the club have to say about it, either pleading innocent or in mitigation, is no longer of any consequence to most people. We have been tried, found guilty and should be hanged, drawn and quartered for our sins. There are a few voices of reason out there, but fewer people willing to listen. Millwall have turned the hatred of their club into a badge of honour. The way things are currently going we might need to learn to do likewise! If there is one concrete thing that has come from “Gibbo’s” smear campaign against us, it has got all of the neutrals rooting for Hull at Wembley and hoping that we get smashed.

I think it was more than a touch to be fair. Ayling leant into him. I don’t think it was a dive. Leo was off balance. I’ve seen them given.

It isn’t just there. It is literally all over social media! Any threads on the game the other night, the final or about us are full of hate.

Dogging? I am amazed at the amount of hate coming our way on social media. Gibson’s hate campaign has travelled like wildfire. We are currently hated more than Jeffrey Epstein!

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But if the alleged “spying” took place within the allowed timeframe elsewhere?

Absolutely. Playing an unregistered player is a far more serious offence than what appears to have been committed by us. Many years ago a Sunday team we used to play against did that and got a right hammering by the league administrators.

True, we don’t know. But from what has been released so far it really doesn’t look like a big deal does it?

Hull have already knocked Millwall out of the competition. How do they get to play again in the final? That is insane.

Why not just wait and see what happens before suggesting who gets thrown under the bus?

Millwall lost. They don’t get a second bite of the cherry or it makes a joke of the competition. It would also be a joke to throw us out for what is not a major crime.

Man up mate! There is no way that there will not be a final and there is no way the winner will not be promoted. It is a circus and a lot of money is involved. It will also be a gross overreaction to exclude us should we be found guilty.

I feel so sorry for the poor bastards having to manage the expectations of some of their fans. Personally I won’t give them any credit unless we win the EPL within two years and the Champion’s League within five years.

We have until next Thursday to reply so unless something has happened it will not be before then at least and I can’t see it happening until after the final.

Surely the EFL will not want any further distractions before the final? I can’t see any decision being made public until after the final. I don’t think for one minute that the club will be disqualified from the competition.

I think he has blown his chances of a job with MI5 though.

It is a sideshow. If you let it spoil your enjoyment of the occasion you have fallen into the trap. They want everyone to believe that it is a big deal. It really isn’t.

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but the arrival of Ben Garner in January looks to have been another excellent appointment (along with Larin, Peretz and bringing back Bree).

I agree that expulsion will not happen. At the risk of upsetting a certain poster, it is not the crime of the century and has been blown up out of all proportion (which is not to mitigate it if it turns out to be true). As for deducting points next season, if we don’t go up, maybe. Would it apply to the EPL though? Aren’t the EPL and the EFL two distinct administrations?

Well, that was stressful. Like Saturday, Boro tired as the game went on. Think we deserved it overall although we rode our luck big time first half Saturday. Nice to make Wembley our second home! Phew!

That was a bit spicy!

1. The club are innocent until proven guilty. 2. The EFL rules state that the club have 14 days to respond to the charges. 3. The club have agreed to comply with the process. There is a match tonight. Win it and Boro are through to the final. Why don’t you just focus on that instead of whipping up a frenzy, which might be over nothing, or are you so worried that you won’t win (after blowing second place) that you are putting your energy in trying to get a bye? Not very sportsman like is it? By the way, all of our games this year are available to “spy” on, as are yours. I’d be very surprised if either side came up with anything new in match day. Actually, that is not quite true. I was very surprised how bad we were in the first half on Saturday and how you didn’t manage to score any goals when you were so dominant.