OldNick

Scott of the Northam posted a different version

Point is, do they want to build bridges. Once they have decided it is hard to turn them back. Well the ones on here, to be fair the fans in the main are fair and only want to see us improve and give us hope.

Its not normal. Personally I had never heard of Poch or Ralph before he came, and I respectfully suggest that you and many others hadnt either. Koeman if I recall correctly had an indifferent time as a manager, but he did inspire from where he started with nothing. Im not asking for hero worship, please tell me where I have said that? He also didnt come from Stoke, but did have a poor time there, before returning to Luton. Again you say I said treat him like a hero, please point us to this other extravagant claim. I have said give the man a chance, and get behind him as eroding the confidence hurts us all. Yes, you are bound to get your petulant way and have him gone, you can then make yourself ready to undermine the next candidate, if it doesnt fit your own personal agenda. I have to again make myself clear. NJ was not my choice and it was with trepidation that I saw we had hired him, but I felt that the clubs people found Thomas Frank (who again our fanbase would have scorned at that time, not now of course)and we should give him a chance to dig us out of the hole Ralph had left us. Funnily enough I didnt have to field these posts after the Palace, Man City cup games and away to Everton. Lets pray that we can get 4 points from the next 2 and things settle, I know we all want that success

well it worked from the first moment he walked in the door, so it is not the normal way of things.

So lets try and work this through. The central defenders were marking (lol) their forwards who were waiting for the cut back, you feel they should abandon the forward, to run to a midfielder running into the box. Thus leaving said forwards space to have a tap in!!!!. I think you need to rethink this Whitey

It bleeding well wont help, of course it wont be down to that but will contribute

All the way

You still believe AA etc should not have tracked the runner?

they should have sacked Ralph sooner, they should not of let Oriel leave, but it is done. I still think we only have 40% chance of staying up but not sureif we change who could do better

yes.

We know what fans reaction will be. You are not that blinkered to not realise that. There is no doubt he has lost a lot of winnable games, and is not good enough, but when you have players missing absolutely gilt edged chances, it is pretty tough. I think the only game that really was poor, was the Forest defeat. Fans moaning is what this forum is classy at, me included. What I dont understand is how we binned him before he had a chance, how we have no faith in SR who have actually put their own money on the line, in their choice. I have been critical of SR in the past, especially earlier in the season, by the way. A poisonous atmosphere is only going to do one thing, we will lose more than we win, yes, it will achievewhat you want us sacking the manager but it wont keep us up

I think he was pre 1970?

If we lose the next 3-4 or 5 defo. I wouldnt be averse to change then, who to lord knows. Personally I dont think that will happen and this will calm down. Sadly, even if we win a few, there will always be those who will wait for us to lose 2 games and be back moaning that he is not good enough. He has hell of a jib turning those fans around. I do hope he can at least get o lot back on board, we need it

Im not sure that Bazanu should have saved it to be fair

Interesting, thanks for that. Can you put that on the Jones out thread?

Your first post above you stated that if we stay up NJ will have nothing to do with him. That obviously is nonsense and so my reply was a brush off to the post. I have little evidence to say how NJ will improve or his attributes. I have seen a short period some players showing a bit of improvement, including JWP looking like his former self. The players at this moment look to be buying in, but Im not there to say for sure. My other reasons I am backing NJ 1. I doubt SR will sack him, as they have belief in their own choice. Hence if we support him, it makes his job easier and the team can have less pressure. I doubt they look forward to playing at SMS as the fans are not giving their full support and are looking to have a go 2. If the players are having problems changing to a new style, how will they change again to another. 3. I want to see the ball in the box a bit more, with JWP etc driving into the box aka Newcastle do. 4. I'm tired of us being pushovers and want us learning the dark arts, make us nastier, and not being the club away teams love to play. I believe that NJ will instil a lot of this, we are where we are and so i am standing in the NJ in camp. If he fails we fail, that is the crux of it. All of us on here think we know best, but frankly we don't, and if you ever read the match thread you will see what a bunch of depressants are on there. Yu read the thread and it sounds like we have not made a pass, then watch the game/highlights and we are pretty good. It really is comical. 'The idiot, Lyanco (example), he should never be allowed to wear the shirt again', 'He's stealing a living' then 'YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS' 'Lyancoooooooooooooooo, make a statue of him' No doubt Im exaggerating a tad but Im not far out lol

That's never in doubt, but on the TV he shows no fire and sorry to say a bit magnolia. In time that will count against him as viewers want Keane type analysts, who are to the point. I hope he starts showing the real Frannie in time and fights for our cause

Ok Ralph, if you say so.

Im just thick lol

Lol 😃 You'll be singing his name come the end of the season . I hope so anyway as it means we've been successful

Money may well ruin him. It is a shame, but football is a game of greed and disloyalty

I find that in the main, the away support are a bit more understanding. As for Lyanco or Bednarek, or Salisu or any other, there is not much in it!!!!

Lol touche

Lol, funnily enough mine is blocked, so you may have thought we were in a darkened room

You did, it was a few years ago. Never mind it really doesn't matter. Swannymere, is watching us and so dont ruin his climax