OldNick

So you are categorically stating as an architect that there are not regulations about the distance from the playing surface to the stands for safety reasons?

That could well be the case but he also knew the financial situation facing him. If we could have afforded NP and if NP was prepared to loan and play the lpw budget team, then it was a major mistake getting rid of him. I still do not think NO is the great manager he is said to be on here. Co-incidently this time last season we had just lost 5-0 away to Hull.(a lot of unfortunate injuries had occured of course)

he was left for 4-5 games too long. A big mistake. As for him being appointed in the first place i dont know the full financial facts at the time and so its difficult to assess

Into the valley of death they rode...

If you are an architect for football stadiums you would know. I am not an architect and i know that is the reason as i asked the question when the staium was mooted, 'why could we not have the stands nearer the pitch' and that was the reply i got. If you remember the stadiums were going up after the Heysel Hillsborigh Valley Parade disasters and so the stadiums were designed with that in mind. It would have been cheaper to have built the stadium with the stands closer to the pitch i would have thought but you may be able to tell us more on that one.

i think you will find that Drogba was stopped by him not having played enough internationals, Adebayour was not taken if I rememeber correctly as WGS did not like his attitude. There was also talk of Defoe coming.

I love the 'We want to stay at the Dell with our 15000 crowds and also compete'. A fan on the board LOl. The stadium was not why we went down, and I like the 3 managers in 1 season bit, LC was here 6 months and he had the same. We were on the slide when GS was here, I know many will not like this but the finger needs alos to be pointed at WGS. He allowed the club to drift when he failed to buy the better players.Buying Mccann, surely we he had a better selection to choses from? That is when the rot set in and we had a massive squad of grafters, no violinsts. I agree we could have spent 10m on a couple of players but only if we could have rid ourselves of some of the other dross. We released for free Kevin Davies who under the right directioon has turned into the player that was always there but never correctly utilised. Do fans really believe we could have kept Bridge??? he was going to Chelsea who were going to pay him what was then massive wages and the chance to win medals. There are many factors to our demise, some of it can be pointed at the fans at their impatience, a lot can be pointed at RL and I believe the most at the players who did not have the balls to pull us through. It was not down to the stadium as the atmosphere during the Norwich home game in the relegation saeason was as dramitic as I can recall and then add the derbies and it shows it is not the stadium.

This is a brilliant bit of pot stirring by DH. this site has been slow and Duncan has thrown in a hand grenade and then walkewd away Lol. Well done Duncan it has livened the site up

Well you cant have the stands nearer thepitch as it is against the law when you build a new ground. You have to have room to drive ambulances around in case of a major incident.

Come on Wes however you dress it up a closed shop is a closed shop that ultimately cost us as a fanbase. We also dont know what investor may have wished to buy us years ago.Many a wealthy man has been made from our city and some may well have wished to invest. The cosiness may have stopped us being going bankrupt of course but to me it was just a gentlemans club and that is perhaps why we never pushed on properly during the LM era

I dont know the legalities of the takeover. I usggest that they were legally correct morally wrong. At the same time i do also think that the way the ownership for decades before being a closed shop and the shares only able to be sold to a select few was wrong as well.

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thats fair, but they were able to strengthen by staying up.

Maybe, but i believe we would be better placed.All opinion of course the same as fans who believe we would be better placed if another had been manager.The results have improved under Wotte. As for the QPR game I wasnt there and so cant judge how bad we were. Were you not at the Coventry Burnley games last season? They were dire as well as many this season.

30m is nothing though is it Alps if you consider just in the 2 seasons they have stayed up they would have banked over 50m and plenty more to follow.Add their high league position and they will get more.

to be still in the PL is worht so much and as a fan it would be tempting to have closed a blind eye and done the same. WHU would be in administration now had they been relegated IMO. They could well be in our position. I think RL is correct (or any other CEO) in not doing it, but WHU by breaking the rules are in the promised land and we are heading for land of the lepers.No justice is there

Who ever looks on that section.I thought it would be lounge material.

I read on teletext last night that their new ground has been shelved and so they are going to redevelop FP.They are going to extend 2 of their stands to increase the stadium to 30k.Is this the plan where they turn the ground around? The takeover must be going ahead then.

I look at west Ham and see them in the higher reaches of the PL and only being so due to fielding a player who should not have played. Perhaps RL should have signed Tevez and paid a paltry fine at the profit of still being in that league. It is said crime pays and whilst WHU have not been involved in crime it does seem that way to me. Even now if we could play someone legal or not and that kept us up it would be worth it. Of course had it been us we would be expelled , docked points and fined the national debt. WH with Brooking and half the media their supporters it doesnt happen to them.

we should buy him as we need his pace

As I stated if we had won a few more home games we would have been midtable. When I think it was Forest we had the chnace to be 10 points clear.Our away form was I think 2nd or 3rd best in the league it was the home form that did us in. At one stage a win would have pushed us up the ;league 4 or 5 places.Saying that Jan was the wrong man.If we had Wotte 4-5 games earlier i suggest we would be far better placed now.

but that was not necessarily the case Ump.We were clear of the relegation places and it was only our home form that kept us from being easily mid table. The costs were being cut and we were on course.RL did not act quickly enough when the wheels started to come off and it was fairly obvious that we needed to be tip top when we had the Donny and Forest games looming. In principle i could see what was trying to be achieved, we wrere mightily close to it coming off.2or 3 home wins under Jan and things would have looked better.It still may have failed but the pressure would have been less.I do accept that jan was not good enough as management material though

I would aim that at LC not so sure about LM though.I wonder who bought his shares and if they have been used to keep RL in power.

Of course that is from your side of the debate. I could counter that by saying you and all the fans who ran into the arms of the Wilde bunch put us back ten years.others will say that RL put us back 20 years by being relegated. It is all about where you view things. I was adamant that the Wilde bunch was not for us and whilst happy for Lowe to go, but only if we got a better alternantive.So far i have seen no evidence we have seen such a person.

Could you nominate it as im too modest to do so myself..thanks