OldNick

the next 2 games will see our fate IMO. Less than 4 points and if the others match or better and we are in dire striaghts.We are still better placed than we were 3 or 4 weeks ago.

When I went to watch us play Villa some years ago they also had a load of advertising sponsorship at half time. It was odd.

I think 4 points out of the next 2 games is the best we can hope for.We have to keep plugging away.It is harsh that all the others seem to have found form at the same time as well, but thats Saints for you

Where was it explained.Where is Connors piece so I can read it? i have also explained to you in reply why i think it was a mistake sitting in the road. As for the facts in the public domain, do you know the financial restraints of the club day to day? I dont, we also dont know the banks wishes. I have read Wotte's full piece in the Echo now and he is perhaps antogonistic to some who stay away.That may not help him cement his place in the fans altime favourites, but i can understand where he is coming from in what he said. You believe you/they are right, I say unless you know the full facts how can you tell? You can obviously see things you dont like about RL, we all can, but also we dont know what has been forced upon him. Jan was a big mistake especially the length of time he was there(although at 1 stage he was about 7 points clear of the bottom 3,no marches then) I chuckled when I read your post and saw the most recent error in your grammar by the way.

If i did do you think Id be on here argueing with you lot?

Fair play, I accept your point and so apologise for taking umbrage. As for adults Im not sure. I do know my faults but if its in you its impossible to get it gone. I hold strong opinions about a lot of things and with conviction as well not that you'd notice.

Why should i drop a few social classes OSM?

Bloody hell that was quick...I bet all the girls say that. thanks again Ump. The first season down was over when he left then? My memory is going.

Not at all. I highlighted the quote that showed your views of superiority and put a subtle dig that i had mentioned i ran a business (you put as leisure) in the luxury market. The dig made it seem perhaps as i couldn't spell well it may not really be the case. This is the internet we can all be James Bond if we wish, some come on and make stories about themselves to make them look better, smarter than others, i dont need to make myself look better than Iam as i am content with my lot and there are quite a few who know what profession I'm in. Not the oldest profession by the way but close to it.

Thanks again UM. If we got 500k for him at that stage it was ok, but i thought it was 200k but i dont expect you to search again. can you recall the date about when RL left ?

Coleman was spoken to about the job here. RL LC and other shareholders put forward questions tat were not aswered and so yes isuppose rL was part of the reason we werent taken over by them

You know what nickh, you come on with your broken English, and atrocious spelling, saying you run your own leisure buisness.....[end quote] Do you know what,if I had been very good at school and learnt immaculate spelling and not used broken English I'd be on call now. So you can look down at me and others who are not good at spelling and punctuation etc but we do ok.It is always the funnier when people who scoff at those of us on here who cant spell perfectly are then pulled up by others.

You are playing the wrong player and so I can see why you are making all the mistakes as I play with a left handed slice. Unless you can see that to a wealthy person price to a degree is not an issue you will always think that RL is stopping them to buy.The fact is that none are wealthy enough. If a 15m price tag is to much for them to afford do you really think they would have the resources to push us on? We need someone who losing 50m is not a problem, not somebody who buys the club needs to worry about the odd 5-10m.

I think I'll pass OSM thanks

i wont look it up as you are always spot on with your facts regarding timescales etc but i was surprised that Madsen was brought in under RL. I would like Blackstock back, although Best may one day be ok but i dont like his attitude. The rest is true, although we did let Blackstock go too cheaply.

Our posts must have crossed. But i will fill in the bits for you. Getting the same price for all in a syndicate (if thats what you wish to call it) is the correct and honourable way. Unlike LM and KW who sold firsdt chance and not worrying about the others.I may also point out it was more of a cartel in the Corbett Bowyer days where you were only able to sell it seems to those already in the circle. Again if there is all these wealthy consortiums tyuo spoke about earlier it is no problem. if they want s so much they will spend a premium, and they are not being overcharged as the clubs value has fallen more than 50% in 2 years. All the boards i have supported saints under have been all talk no action, RL has been the closest to providing as in under his charge we got the stadium, none of the others ever did. I dont support RL (it is all too hard for you to understand) I wish what I believe is best for the club.I think he is best to get us out of the financial mess we find ourselves in.He is part of that as he was in charge in the relegation season but he is not the main reason we went down IMO. Iam open minded to another group taking over but I wont rush into their arms like a blindfolded nyphomaniac into Russel Brands bedroom like many on here did when the Wilde bunch appeared. Im sorry you get frustrated with my position but i have my own mind and am happy to make my own judgements as i ve hade to do since I left school at 16, the teachers then couldnt do anything with me and you have no chance whatsoever as you dont have any thoughts that are at all convincing.

You obviously cannot read or just dont wish to accept my view. i dont know what you are on call about but i 'd hate it to be problem solving. You are entrenched that you believe RL has done no good whatsoever.That goes back to other posts days ago.(god give me strength)Your position seems to me that he has to go whatever.My postition is that hey all have to go, when a better alternative comes around. Not anyone but Lowe. That is not entrenched but sensible. Now go back and answer my bit about all these people you say are out there who want to buy the club and Lowe is stopping them.Tell me how these super rich peoplewho were going to buy the club when it was 65p a share will now not buy at 25p a share or 30p a share or even a £1 a share? The clubs market value is less than £15m so it is reasonable to say if you are offered double its value or even treble its value you'd sell. if there are all these wealthy people you said were there, why aren't they buying us? Oh of course mr less than 6% is stopping them LOL

It may cause awareness but alos lose any sympathy they had with people not connected to the club.If you were at the airport waiting to fly off when those anti flying protesters ran onto the runway at Stanstead would you A) think , Oh good Im delayed thank you to those protesters i must support them b) those ########s have messed up my day, they get what they deserve and they are a bit of a rabble

But come on if you are saying Best wasnt given a chance under Lowe and so he made the mistake. Best played in the PL at Everton when we we had an injury crisis. I think he was 16 or 17 are you saying Gb should have played him instead of buying Rasiak or loaning Madsen??? Gb should have made them part of the squad and brought them both through gradually but if Best had played many more games I doubt we would have made the play offs. Gb obviously wanted to play/sign more experienced players and so froze him out.

That is probably correct. To me he is the face of the current board/club and so is pulling the strings.I have no arguement with you about that.

Why should he? Just because he says what you dont like. He will obviously be more pro the current regime as they appointed him. Get over it, he will tow the club line no different to any other manager. Many of the campaigners believe they are doing it for the best, but that doesnt mean they are right.Unless they know the full facts how can they make a correct judgement? I respect the marchers as they did it for the right reasons and did it with dignity and reacted in the correct way when they got into the ground.The 2nd march they lost the moral high ground as soon as they sat in the road and also some had the Wotte out banners.

I dont think there was a backlash but I think there was degree of gnashing of teeth.I myself dint believe it was going to happen but when it became more in the media i was alarmed. Of course there would have been much comment on the forums and perhaps it was so frowned upon the club/board took notice. I suspect he is closer to the thoughts of the club than ANYBODY on here and so why do we not believe it.The club would be hearing comments from all sides at that time , not only on the forums.

Entrenchment is on all sides.

Where do I say give him another chance? The fact is i say if he goes they all should go without exception.You and many others are only focussed on RL when it patently is the whole group.Who can hold their heads up and really say they did it right? LC comes the closest but he is not right longterm either. Iam happy to watch the football and wait, in time something will happen for the good and then I will be happy to wave good bye to the whole crowd who have overseen disappoinments a plenty over the years.

Well as i alluded to above Um I could see the wood from the trees when MW bunch cane in, you sadly couldn't. Therefore perhaps you also should sit back and digest a little what you dont like to read on here as sometimes it is right. That is something that we all should take note of. it is not black and white. If RL goes and the rest are still left do you really think we have gone forward.As a figurehead yes as a solvent football club I myself dont believe it would be the case, but it is all opinion and like the governments quantitive easing it is a leap into the dark.