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OldNick

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  1. I think I'll pass OSM thanks
  2. i wont look it up as you are always spot on with your facts regarding timescales etc but i was surprised that Madsen was brought in under RL. I would like Blackstock back, although Best may one day be ok but i dont like his attitude. The rest is true, although we did let Blackstock go too cheaply.
  3. Our posts must have crossed. But i will fill in the bits for you. Getting the same price for all in a syndicate (if thats what you wish to call it) is the correct and honourable way. Unlike LM and KW who sold firsdt chance and not worrying about the others.I may also point out it was more of a cartel in the Corbett Bowyer days where you were only able to sell it seems to those already in the circle. Again if there is all these wealthy consortiums tyuo spoke about earlier it is no problem. if they want s so much they will spend a premium, and they are not being overcharged as the clubs value has fallen more than 50% in 2 years. All the boards i have supported saints under have been all talk no action, RL has been the closest to providing as in under his charge we got the stadium, none of the others ever did. I dont support RL (it is all too hard for you to understand) I wish what I believe is best for the club.I think he is best to get us out of the financial mess we find ourselves in.He is part of that as he was in charge in the relegation season but he is not the main reason we went down IMO. Iam open minded to another group taking over but I wont rush into their arms like a blindfolded nyphomaniac into Russel Brands bedroom like many on here did when the Wilde bunch appeared. Im sorry you get frustrated with my position but i have my own mind and am happy to make my own judgements as i ve hade to do since I left school at 16, the teachers then couldnt do anything with me and you have no chance whatsoever as you dont have any thoughts that are at all convincing.
  4. You obviously cannot read or just dont wish to accept my view. i dont know what you are on call about but i 'd hate it to be problem solving. You are entrenched that you believe RL has done no good whatsoever.That goes back to other posts days ago.(god give me strength)Your position seems to me that he has to go whatever.My postition is that hey all have to go, when a better alternative comes around. Not anyone but Lowe. That is not entrenched but sensible. Now go back and answer my bit about all these people you say are out there who want to buy the club and Lowe is stopping them.Tell me how these super rich peoplewho were going to buy the club when it was 65p a share will now not buy at 25p a share or 30p a share or even a £1 a share? The clubs market value is less than £15m so it is reasonable to say if you are offered double its value or even treble its value you'd sell. if there are all these wealthy people you said were there, why aren't they buying us? Oh of course mr less than 6% is stopping them LOL
  5. It may cause awareness but alos lose any sympathy they had with people not connected to the club.If you were at the airport waiting to fly off when those anti flying protesters ran onto the runway at Stanstead would you A) think , Oh good Im delayed thank you to those protesters i must support them b) those ########s have messed up my day, they get what they deserve and they are a bit of a rabble
  6. But come on if you are saying Best wasnt given a chance under Lowe and so he made the mistake. Best played in the PL at Everton when we we had an injury crisis. I think he was 16 or 17 are you saying Gb should have played him instead of buying Rasiak or loaning Madsen??? Gb should have made them part of the squad and brought them both through gradually but if Best had played many more games I doubt we would have made the play offs. Gb obviously wanted to play/sign more experienced players and so froze him out.
  7. That is probably correct. To me he is the face of the current board/club and so is pulling the strings.I have no arguement with you about that.
  8. Why should he? Just because he says what you dont like. He will obviously be more pro the current regime as they appointed him. Get over it, he will tow the club line no different to any other manager. Many of the campaigners believe they are doing it for the best, but that doesnt mean they are right.Unless they know the full facts how can they make a correct judgement? I respect the marchers as they did it for the right reasons and did it with dignity and reacted in the correct way when they got into the ground.The 2nd march they lost the moral high ground as soon as they sat in the road and also some had the Wotte out banners.
  9. I dont think there was a backlash but I think there was degree of gnashing of teeth.I myself dint believe it was going to happen but when it became more in the media i was alarmed. Of course there would have been much comment on the forums and perhaps it was so frowned upon the club/board took notice. I suspect he is closer to the thoughts of the club than ANYBODY on here and so why do we not believe it.The club would be hearing comments from all sides at that time , not only on the forums.
  10. Entrenchment is on all sides.
  11. Where do I say give him another chance? The fact is i say if he goes they all should go without exception.You and many others are only focussed on RL when it patently is the whole group.Who can hold their heads up and really say they did it right? LC comes the closest but he is not right longterm either. Iam happy to watch the football and wait, in time something will happen for the good and then I will be happy to wave good bye to the whole crowd who have overseen disappoinments a plenty over the years.
  12. Well as i alluded to above Um I could see the wood from the trees when MW bunch cane in, you sadly couldn't. Therefore perhaps you also should sit back and digest a little what you dont like to read on here as sometimes it is right. That is something that we all should take note of. it is not black and white. If RL goes and the rest are still left do you really think we have gone forward.As a figurehead yes as a solvent football club I myself dont believe it would be the case, but it is all opinion and like the governments quantitive easing it is a leap into the dark.
  13. i never saw Connors post and would like to read it. i think you have mirrors in your house (probably wise) as you are entrenched as well.
  14. Dear Schoolmaster, can you tell me how a man with is it 6% or less of the clubs shares is stopping us being sold? If as you say there are loads of wealthy men out there and consortiums why buying the club is so difficult. i have a business in the luxury market and know something for sure if a wealthy man wishes to buy something desperately price is not an issue. If a new ferrari is 250k and the waiting list is a year they will pay 350k to get6 one, the same would be if i had the money to buy SFC. There is nothing stopping people buying us, period. I admit to not wanting the Wilde bunch, I argued with the majority on here that they were all talk. Again I got the same smarmy abuse from Ump on that as well. Again I find it really amusing that we are told that RL keeps making the same mistakes and his critics arew doing the same.Lol. I myself have made mysdelf clear and will put it again (not in red) I want RL Askham, Wilde,Wiseman,Corbett, Crouch LM and all the others out. In saying that it is no use then them being replaced by another bunch of all talk no action people. Until then I will go and watch and support SFC through rough and smooth. I will not have a paddy because RL leaves and so not go again on principle the same goes for any other director, I really dont care if they are there or not as long as SFC is. I also say the owners/ board/ chairman have never done a thing for me as a fan, and I wouldnt expect much anyway as i pay to go and watch a football team that they put together and me in my foolishness feel attached to it as it is called Southampton, not Rupert Lowe 11 or Leon Crouch 11 because if it was i would have given up years ago.
  15. Well the lads at the front were confused when they were carrying their 'Wotte out' placards and when they were also interviewed for the telly. Now what was the march about? Was it to get Rl to leave as well as getting Wotte out, LC in, MC as chairwoman, LM to return? You ask a lot of the marchers and it would be a combination of Lowe out and a mixture of the rest
  16. Well you may have been able to mark your replies in red, are you a teacher?So 32000 turn up and some are neutral. What a surprise, every game has neutral fans there.The point which seems too high brow for you is that the crowds is dramatically higher when a glamour team come. The chairman is the same, therefore it is fair to accept that they turn up when the games are more glamorous or we are winning. not because the chairman is Lowe , Crouch Corbett or Michael Jackson. I call him the chairman as Lowe gets a bit tedious all the time. Well if you think there are hundreds of wealthy men or consortiums out there get off your backside and get 1 in.Nobody else has been lucky and it is not as though it isnr common knowledge we're for sale. 2000 x £30 is 60k is useful, but Im still sceptical they would all come back if RL left.It didnt happen last time did it? I wish for them all gone, and until then I will still support the team, I still went when the Wilde bunch rode into town and came in against my wishes i didnt sulk until they were gone.
  17. thats the next thing who can pick the teams. Willwe all stand in a row and wait for a captain to pick us in turn?
  18. If the Trust was there to give suggestions of how we wish for say the stewards to act or how to get the beer served quicker then fine, but if it is to tell the club that Saga should play every game or Size should be dropped etc then it is not for me.(not that Im advocating either of these things should or should not be the case)
  19. there'll be some CLOGgers there dont worry
  20. I think it would be apt if the first team were there and giving us their thoughts of how good we are and boo and moan at us for not doing it right.
  21. Setanta wont be shwing it but Frank warren has shown interest. is there a team fielded that is for All the board out as thats the one I want.
  22. I think that needs looking at, exactly what we will get. i think that the club kit is due to change? and so the kit may be redundant (either home or away) I stil have my shirt at home and it was a great momento. I personally think its a great idea but we do need to know exactly what we are getting.
  23. Well if you were at the game you will know that when Utd scored there was only celebration apart from in the away end in corporate and a few in the directors box.The chairman was RL, I do not know all the fans personally and when we were in the PL the make up of the crowds were the same, and no doubt the SU game last season the same. Until you realise that not all fans are driven by who is on the board and stop actring like a kid as yuo can't get your way and have a chairman you want you will forever be upset. I would like a chairman who cares for the club who is wealthy enough to get us a great team. At present we have neither and no one around remotely like it, so i get on with it. If the oppostion or the team is doing well fans will turn up. Only a couple of thousnad are that motivated to not go due to RL at best. yes we are all tired of the squabbles in the boardroom but i myself would only accept him gone if they are ALL gone. Dont tell me i dont answer questions because i do, it is just because you cant accept my opinion or answer that gets you riled. You havent got a good enough arguement to make me become a very anti Lowe. i want him gone but only if the rest go. If not we are in the same position but just different faces. Tell me when in the last 30 years the board have really delivered to the fans? I have been used a a mug punter since i first went in the late sixties and still am. The club have given me nothing except a few great memories, lots of sleepless nights and much frustration.
  24. I respectfully suggest that the numbers allowed in the changing rooms would be limited.i suspect that we will only get 16 a side. If it is like football aid the club give you a shirt with your name on it. I promise you going into the changing room and seeing a shirt hung on a hook with your name on the back is worth every penny.. Whilst Im a bit old now Id like to do it and perhaps my brother would as well.
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