OldNick

I saw an article on Sky sports about GH football school and that htey were going to play against a Southampton 11. Perhaps there is going to be a tie up with our youngsters and perhaps using us to send them on.

If you think that your patronising and attempting to be offensive posts effect me you have another thing coming. You may be able to put across your belief that you are some kind of financial guru but it doesnt cut with me. You dont see the effects of cuts straight away and many go forward into the next yerars figures. we came down with a pL wage bill and that would take time to reduce or do contracts and fixed costs mean nothing . Gb came to the club and axed over 20 players on high wages.It is something you dont seem to want to accept. that was in the period before the Wilde bunch tookover. Those savings would have been still filtering down in the following years figures that you seem to be putting to Crouch Wilde and co. They came in on a popularist vote and spent spent spent. those figures then follow onto the rising of the salary bill. The wage bill rose back up, and it doesnt matter whether LC or whoever signed the cheques they were custodians and they are responsible for the actions of the people they put in charge. The whole of the Wilde bunch were culpable as they took over the club and ran it into the ground and did not plan ahead correctly. As for your comment and constant going back to the relegation situation that was indeed a disaster but many companies lose major clients and with it finance, they dont then go out and employ more, they reduce cuts and take drastic action to make things financially stable. That is my criticism, if i lost my best client I wouldnt then go and stock up in goods that he required in the past or increase any of my costs. It is so straightforward and undefendable IMO. Whether you wish to point at Hone or Hoos I dont care , but the real financial problems have come to the fore under their stewardship. ps I notice you have had to resort to the funny faces to try and strengthen your debating, I had thought you had grown up a bit and refrained form using them.It may impress some of the youngsters but the mature posters would see through them.You are above having to resort to those.

its no use trying to try and persuade Ump any differently. I suspect on many points is correct and weak on others. He has great affection for LC and so will always defend any of his actions.He may be correct but as in all these things there is a little from them all. I myself beleive the new lot tried to curry favour with the fans in poplarist moves and forgot the finances as the parachute payments were ending.

Iam against booing players. As for Cole I thought it was pathetic but he is really the epitamy of the modern footballer and I think fans are sick to death of these type of players.

I now live in Salisbury enough said

Thanks BTF, Im gonna put the policeman right on that one

ahhh and England scared the s### out of Kazakstan for so long didnt they? Take account of the fact that he is an international manager. You can try your rubbishing of someone as you have no real answer to a fact.

As I have stated before, the second season when the wage bill came down was a carry over from RL installing GB whose remit was to slash the wage bill and get rid of the hgh earners, hence over 20 players departing. I dont know for certain who was in charge and making the decisions at any one time after Lowes removal but All that came in oversaw an increase on wages and that is criminal in a financial sense. It is not about RL being better but the wage bill was being slashed but the 'saviuors, and anyone but RL' crew took us back to the same heoights of wages that we had when we had a squad of PL salaried players when we first came down. It is a disaster and however you dress it up we were let down

MB I knew you'd get that one in. It did make me smile, but you are right 15 minutes into the second half, I do hope the referee is going to add on a lot of injury time.

a very successful businessman, but in real terms £2m a year is not a lot when you want them to invest in a football club. We need someone who is worth 500m and is prepared to lose 100m,where it is not a big loss in their living standars wheras someone worth 30m to lose 5-10m is a big cut in their lifestyle.

its how you die is the fear. Peacfully in your sleep in your 80's without knowing is the way to go

I hope the fine Italian had a good time too! Thanks, i am not looking to pick a fight but wondered as you are normally gened up on this type of thing and perhaps would be as surprised as me if this is the case.

I stated after speaking to a policeman he said thet he looked up an the governments accounts that the spend on the cabinet office was the same as we spend on the whole of our policeforce.If that is the case then it seems scandalous. Unless the cabinet office do a lot more than provide tea and doughnuts to civil servants and quangos to their mates. If you are not worried that this may be a waste of taxpayers money then fine, but to me it seemed a massive amount. I would happily point out I have no idea what the cabinet office do.

and the poster still wont go, because the football ain't good enough as we are only playing Rochdale, and all we are playing it the under 16's and a couple of 38 year olds.They've closed the family centre Northam and chapel and only have the Itchen and Kingsland open in the centre, also its far too dear to watch L2 football. I'm sure you know where we are with poelpe like that.

Snowballs you are above that I thought.He obviously is doing it for himself but he also has done it to try and repay the fans and club. He could easily have taken a fantastic insurance payout like a lot of the others have recently.

That is fine but the jibes are tasteless IMO. No doubt it is done in mirth but again it is wrong and those that try and get political points from it should think again

BTF can you tell me what the cabinet office spends its moneyon.I ask that as I had a Policeman call on my business premises as a hoolie had done some damage, and he told me the Police budget nationwide is 5.7billion and that he had looked up for spending in similar amounts on the national bill and the Cabinet office spent the same! Now that seems a lot of money to me, but perhaps you can explain as it is your field i would have thought. Ta Nick

they are no better than they were before the 58% rise in salary, that is most pertinent to me.

back to the original thread, Killer is obviously still fighting to play. Why the cheap jibes, its a disgrace as he has shown more bottle than any footballer that has palyed for us in generations.Instead of the cheap cracks show some respect.

you've got the niggling injury, but without the injury

SOG, you are banging your head against a brick wall. Even when NP was at SMS a lot of the non attenders were still not going. There is no answer to the true fact that GB is now an International manager. He is not managing a L1 side or out of work. In fact it seems he earnt the club al ot of money when he left with a handsome payoff , that helped towards the loans NP brought in to save the day.

and I haven't been invited

That is 100 % how I feel about your redibility Weston

Oh the irony, lol

Weston Im glad you have said that to clarify things. It would be human nature to believe you were trying to cover for your friends as i would expect DMG and RL etc not to be very happy at these assertions and may jump to the wrong conclusions and may point to AS as being the source. This is the problem for all of us on here as we may put friends or aquaintances in peril (ie have trouble with their employers or teammates)by trying to inform the posters on here on the scraps that we are fortunate to get. I have withdrawn from putting too much info on here as it has become a game with a few to gang up try and discredit the little bits I put up. It is not to be clever by me but genuinely i wanted to share the news for many of the normal fans who are not poilitcal and just want to know. I do know the club really do want to find out where this info drips from and so i really am drawing back more as it is not worth it, only then to have some who have their own agendas to try and be smart to trash these things. I do hope the club do not jump to conclusions and DMG likewise as Drew and family seem to be an innocent in all this as for the salary it does seem low but it may have been linked to performance bonusses. Long shot said it was a third of GBs and a fifth of Dave Jones but of course may have come from he same source, so it is difficult to see if it is correct. IMO it probably should have been there or there abouts as GB on 9k a week seems not unrealistic and if NP was on a third then that all falls into place.