OldNick

No showing support for the team.

KD has not improved that much , he was consistantly good last season fans just let their predudices get the better of them. He made some fantastic saves to keep us in matches.He got injured and RW came and did very well.He had the bonus of fans giving him a completely fresh start and so that was shown in his preformances. Bart has lost his confidence in a big way and I cant see him getting it back for some time if ever.Blayney was the same also Paul SMith although now he has regained a lot of his confidence.

Well it would make them think you were taking the rip. I was staying in a hotel and Daqve Hill from Slade was there giving it the big one, people fawning over him.Anyway I was walking outside as he was coming in and I said @give us a song Dave.' He thought I was taking the p### and ignored me for the rest of the time there.

I think you will find itvis not only our club that a director or chairman goes in to wish players luck.

i know lastr night was a terrible result but Im down but now bowed.I didnt for the first time in years look at the resut until it was over. I wasnt at all surprised,I had hoped we'd gone out very early as we would have had fresher legs for the Blackpool and now the Donny games.Scrabbling around in the carling cup gets you nowehere. Donny will be fresher than us and that is crucial, the few quid it raised is useful but i doubt if we covered costs, and if so a few grand profit does us littel good.

it depends who he brings with him. For me Im happy with RL as I can see he is trying to right the ship, but if we could get a new face who doesnt have the baggage and the whole of the boardromm is gone and a completely new start then that would be fine with me. It may be the only thing to bring the fans on board and if we had the added bonus of money to spend on the squad then a new feelgood facvtor will spread. If we only lose RL and MW then we would still have those hangers on in the background. An empty canvass is the only way to cure the illness.

As the PLC is 2 entities couldnt we put the stadium into administration to lose the debt and the team apart from it........well you can dream

You'd love it to be the case, in fact he may install more belief than the manager but he goes and wishes the team luck.In our crazy world where the fans want to beleive that RL does such things there is no stopping people wishing to believe it.He is away and so couldnt have done it last night.

good to hear it.

BS you seem normally level heded but they are as obtainable for us at present as Ronaldo.We havent the money to pay for them.We have our own overvalued stars we cant shift.

Victor an apology is in order .

They are not rumours they are true, RL goes into the see the players before the game to wish them luck

Ron I dont know the deals details.Its all smoke and mirrors, I dont believe we've paid for Pulis but IMO it may be a way to mask how much we got for AD and so have to pay less to Boro. I may be well off the mark but it seems if we could relly have him for free but on the books 200k is knocked off the AD deal then we have saved a bit of the sell on clause. Gasmi is out injured and so is not our player as yet as far as Imaware.

I was never against HR when he was here and wanted to him to see the job through.HR is all talk he only ever uses other peoples money.He was going to save the Cherries he'd never let them foldetc .Where was he?

PES for a moment I thought you'd turned into one of those snide little skates but thankfully you had the grace to be decent.

Wrexham in about 1972

I dont see how it has cost us ten points. With the staff the club could afford we would have done similar whoever was in charge.I was happy to try NP not overawed, BD also) but with the constraints we would be very much as we are now.I know as UMp has said we could have perhaps had a few experienced pros but unless the bank are prepared to release funds to pay for them we would nt have them. The ridding of the high earmers would be a prerequisite to the banks support. We have been spoilt to a certain degree of having star players over the years but have to accept that the parachute is gone and we are hurtling to the ground without a secondary one because people didnt make plans when it was about to close.

That may be the case, I still am hopeful we can avoid it. As I say I have no experience of administration in my 30 odd years of running business but all I do know it isnt pretty however you look at it. It may serve somes purpose to think the big bad wolves are going to be punished but I dont see it being the case.Who gets hurt is mr and mrs hard working small business who have worked their business up and then are cut at the knees by the administrator as they have to take a frraction what they are owed.It stops anyone providing/dealing with you in future as they make instant payment and no credit terms. The best is sold in a firesale and you are left with the dregs. In a lovely world no one gets hurt peolpe like Askham and the fools who were there and made PA turn away (before you all dismiss this, the powers that be want you to think he was never4 there, they would never want the fans to know they co#### up the biggest opportunity in the clubs history) but no they will make sure they are insulated before the administrator is called in. Going into administration will hurt the little people and the big boys will still have the power.

I have no experience of administration but if you look at history no club has come out of it stronger better and quite often the people taking you in come out with it the other side. Its a definite no for for me.

All very reasonable im sure.What figure have you based your attendance shortfall on? Surely you didnt base that the club expected 22k when the s/t uptake had dropped dramatically.I would expect the club would have put a figure of 16-18k As for the players wages that may be close to the figure, and so why we have to unload them.IE Saga and Rasiak. JE and Thomas are out longterm and I think? they may be covered by insurance payouts on longterm absences. If Rudi is on 4k appearance money then that is good reason for finances why he is not playing.He really is only worried about money it seems and so why waste our time on him? Therefore in my calculations compared to yours we are 3-4 m behind.Still far too much.

yeah could well be.Those rumours in Pompey will have a lot of weight.When I see HR going into a betting shop thats when Iill panic.

As the oldest it doesnt make you the wisest. Can you recall Askhams tenure? That was a disaster that only MLT and Branfoots removal saved us from this but 5 or so years before.

but the fans are partly to blame. (me included) I doubt we'd have been relegated had we not gone against RL wishing for GH to return.Saying that Im still not sad he did not come back.

Are you saying the fans had nothing to do with where we are now?

The big travelling support will be no bigger than Brum but in the main we will struggle to get up to 18k average this season.If you have 15k s/t holdersI do hope that is not budgeted for next season as things may turn sticky if you get a poor run.As for Uefa cup I woudnt get too carried away at present.Your best bet is the Carling cup.